Received: from mail-ia0-f183.google.com ([209.85.210.183]:46636) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqSBX-0000M1-K1; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:33:05 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f183.google.com with SMTP id r13sf8957778iar.10 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:32:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:date:from:to :message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bjTtlTDv0j7jRv3Rf1P25KwX6wvLzdePeXNyBDn2I7M=; b=VEZ8qc/vu6plJaje/DKjiy7UDdZ8Z1d3QN9neeYNQbyKZUXSqmnkA5WsqD3GOmxalq 6yUUEJ75RbZ3vlxa17S8UDQ/vmtoTfugaWoNlLIBBZDpxXKJxF6X4NRFsvmD4s08rzi3 GsndctXmJm7C+GmZgzT4E0KPS7W/d52vLsiEx7epoAD5+ZALiSgOMt6V4HpDUcvx7V51 FpVCsMo1ntgSZKiMmEXDh7JORbNbR9FQqch+QoLpjnNUYwx7vQxEBzSC3eWTM8SqFgxs orC2gN8kM9PyygHysqbMefeZyYVS9pko7LqnLKPb4k1CB8/Ffvd0wBpy/11cKNpkvIjG ngMA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:date:from:to :message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bjTtlTDv0j7jRv3Rf1P25KwX6wvLzdePeXNyBDn2I7M=; b=i069ThgEgdP9MREoO8dW6xg32WdtyPB1xBOx61N5InmUowHE9p8hhIdn230ZXEz1k9 eipJE977u2zajoVDfdoePJphnEhLxlXC3sOTbApqe6FpwxYCadxaXncsZD0QPXH/OXiI 5ACk1nxDW0yUMS6GPz1nhqlAnb8nBOnw7JOwAZR5UMJ4cktmTXTeOWwGHAT2cytLvvP/ UHKHNDbkUIRTdK1mUX6BefbNZBFFSH1zCtVWhdFB8AUKPCGCfRVq777g+IZTu3UaldAx oUyrctuM06nBHvXYtkfkQFfO+Nx7HzkdelXdBzhe5Cja71L8RsxLrLuEmYYCtFbbzkpH B2Yg== X-Received: by 10.49.116.115 with SMTP id jv19mr7274970qeb.21.1357147972488; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:32:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.104.110 with SMTP id gd14ls5371358qeb.64.gmail; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:32:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.224.207.66 with SMTP id fx2mr25838517qab.7.1357147971275; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.0.141 with SMTP id 13msqab; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:01:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.15.38 with SMTP id u6mr6185212qec.8.1356973262164; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:01:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: "neizyn." To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0bda5d89-da09-48d1-a282-7aee13e2398e@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Special reference, underspecified MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: sjacket@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_96_9442966.1356973261508" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2487 ------=_Part_96_9442966.1356973261508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi .i mi'e neizyn. Sorry, I'm just a beginnger! but I was wondering about a special situation. Suppose there's a group of girls with one guy; I'm talking to one of the girls, and I make a statement referring to the guy without unambiguously referring to him by name or other reference. This is because he's the only person in the group like that. Say he's blonde. Is there a way I can say that "someone is blond" oooooor 'blonde exists/obtains such that x is blonde' ? Better yet, could I use that with some kind of reference? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/mdo5H0BjF-0J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_96_9442966.1356973261508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Sorry, I'm ju= st a beginnger! but I was wondering about a special situation.
Su= ppose there's a group of girls with one guy; I'm talking to one of the girl= s, and I make a statement referring to the guy without unambiguously referr= ing to him by name or other reference. This is because he's the only person= in the group like that. Say he's blonde. Is there a way I can say tha= t "someone is blond" oooooor 'blonde exists/obtains such that x is blonde' = ? Better yet, could I use that with some kind of reference? 

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