Received: from mail-pa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.220.64]:52482) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqPW0-0007NU-7H; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:42:09 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id bi1sf8950044pad.9 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=OwiiwbwBVQSUQcQdq/EomyA/ZWOgSf1HzInUmpnUM/4=; b=kScLkeE2XZ72TlVk2mDG1a3JZ8E1n+S22lmv0+BoGlOGTZaTrqEYouSOH48LCXM/gj WHW0Xscn5YrY0m5qev16RuvJi1kzaSeCM3PoTJDjjQ7dKZ0LCO1al9+mEXNWFjE697B3 6iO7ILlzMZXuFjn9h7U+2PiilhH5WqBNNDE6QXEXnsJ2v8by3NOiPQ1pViHVp3VROb2Z OqSbykLFsjetRxN7jnBfnlTeGPgVY4FGjiVKTwGNMevdlWyQSojWfKO2eUEpB0DnIUmV ghCrjeoRcHltGnpVpk6yOLQ8/ay49IZzMs4zWJ97bJJAWe6FgRYBTk2t8AaUXuc6Gbk6 Y9ag== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=OwiiwbwBVQSUQcQdq/EomyA/ZWOgSf1HzInUmpnUM/4=; b=COHog3FGEb7UN+vzsjK1WDtdSMeWYup7kmNdxBKEEEu245VmRm/Vryw9/Zdr0T3/Of 2hp/tiuYJTimefu8wobgzBaBTtQeYZJO/zJ771mlhaYBbd65JNVhKPh/ilLble1/EJ9s ajFB/WEATFd569oM/4tLsgsKfyhR0affRYJfCznjgoXh/pKYSagJp33jiPVaoZVEBtbg gVbjsQQYDyDB+X6vdT9gwwGUoiV05MNV+yObBu6TG1TutnXPcyxv+IFxViNRUYtjv6nB tbocm/1aRjQsmc98RvCTcJFuKI0dvU85ghHpJK84NGme6smOHhJ89tZ0ZBdul35ThJf/ JfuQ== X-Received: by 10.50.197.195 with SMTP id iw3mr14546222igc.10.1357137709887; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.46.232 with SMTP id y8ls14537067igm.41.canary; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.152.233 with SMTP id vb9mr31382234igb.1.1357137709144; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.152.233 with SMTP id vb9mr31382233igb.1.1357137709130; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si4878067iga.1.2013.01.02.06.41.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.170; Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id k10so16891126iea.15 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.169.103 with SMTP id ad7mr34913877igc.105.1357137709054; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.194.193 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:41:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:41:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2359c50f3a6f04d24f3f43 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2803 --e89a8f2359c50f3a6f04d24f3f43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: You've got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. In your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the actual meaning; that usually indicates naljvajvo Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo maker makes it mean once you define its structure, so it's a matter of agreeing on the meaning, there's no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-tce} but for {mleca} I prefer {mec-}. Of course I've no problem with {rodme'a} as {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka broda kei ko'i} but it has exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo'e} (as defined in my previous message). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:22= PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
You'= ;ve got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. I= n=20 your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the actual meaning; that usually indicates=A0 naljvajvo


Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo maker m= akes it mean once you define its structure, so it's a matter of agreein= g on the meaning, there's no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-tce} b= ut for {mleca} I prefer {mec-}.

Of course I've no problem with {ro= dme'a} as {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka broda kei ko'i} but it has= exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo'e} (as defined in my previous= message).


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