Received: from mail-ye0-f188.google.com ([209.85.213.188]:61648) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqXqp-0002gx-Cn; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:36:09 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f188.google.com with SMTP id l1sf8865679yen.25 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:35:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version :to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=P+iMf/q8vzgWOC3IQiYYzFz+PYlC/zYyHveHGw+Fuwk=; b=LqeTQ8x9yeNDbgO+vDv99/US/sOvmbPYHhrBLd6hJqng3KJPQpWvE4y7MnpB7Lii1w mQ3G3zilPzxtHSTPQ3aHiKpFIaaNT/tSEcTbOpQQ70rA8NXBafzR7fgb+h3oRmD+lrpE pv5lRUIn7NR9KKbXEtIt1LQLu9/t/O0zi58Qu4h+Cv+a2M9UD+UhL9dgiV/BSK5fcIDZ 5wrpnhyJjSlACUQ/XOV0UQDMvY+KWzTrRRr8qCf6bS3HavWRsyvewJ3NexsJxYLR27P/ LJvhDbBIC7F6/VucuHVsqzBZFGyp4JqAhW+wjvGYJCx95wmVbVtmtb9biughcZWNzGdu sJLw== X-Received: by 10.50.0.204 with SMTP id 12mr15406133igg.9.1357169752762; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.33.136 with SMTP id r8ls10910032igi.10.gmail; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.81.196 with SMTP id zz4mr36622174icb.14.1357169752286; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.81.196 with SMTP id zz4mr36622173icb.14.1357169752272; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com. [209.68.5.16]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id dx8si5421813igc.1.2013.01.02.15.35.51; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.16; Received: (qmail 62281 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2013 23:35:50 -0000 Received: from 84.175.65.67 (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (84.175.65.67) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Jan 2013 23:35:50 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 84.175.65.67 Message-ID: <50E4C457.4000607@plasmatix.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:35:51 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Should/Ought References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 956 la .arpis. cu cusku di'e > ju'o so'i roi retsku .i ku'i ji'a sai mi krefu retsku di'e .i fanva > zo'oi should fu ma to mu'i zoi gy. I should eat .gy. joi zoi gy. I > should go to the gym .gy. to mabla me zo zoi javni toi toi > > "I'm sure it's been asked many times before; even so, I ask it again: > How does one translate "should" (e.g. "I should eat", "I should go to > the gym" (Damned "zoi" rules))? Here is a previous discussion which should answer some or all of your questions: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/lojban-beginners/puPoGPYCeBw/UcFYAyMvr_sJ mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.