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That really did help.a
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On Jan 6, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Remo Dentato <<rdentato@gmail.com>rdentato@gmai=
l.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Annie wrote:
Goodness! The concept of selbri is way more complicated than I realized.
When I started learning Lojban, I got the concept of selbri thinking of the=
m as set definitions.
So {plise} is the set of all apples. {klama} is the set of those going some=
where, {klama be lo zarci} is the set of those who go to a store (a smaller=
 subset of {klama}), {klama be lo zarci be lo zdani} is the even smaller se=
t of those who go to a store from an house.
A bridi states that x1 is part of the set defined by the selbri.
This view made simpler for me to move on and get the rest, I hope it can he=
lp you too.
For those versed in a more formal reasoning, this interpretation is support=
ed by the fact that relations are a subset of the cartesian products of set=
s. In theory all sets are equally important but in Lojban the set that is u=
sed for the sumti place x1 is given a special treatment, thats why my inter=
pretation attaches the other sumti places to the selbri first.Note that thi=
s is exactly what is done when we speak of "bridi tails".
mu'o mi'e la .remod.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>That really did help.a<br><br>Sent=
 from my iPod</div><div><br>On Jan 6, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Remo Dentato &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Annie  w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Goodness! Th=
e concept of selbri is way more complicated than I realized.<br>


</div></div></blockquote><span><br></span><div><span>When I started learnin=
g Lojban, I got the concept of selbri thinking of them as set definitions.<=
/span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>So {plise} is the set of=
 all apples. {klama} is the set of those going somewhere, {klama be lo zarc=
i} is the set of those who go to a&nbsp;store (a smaller subset of {klama})=
, {klama be lo zarci be lo zdani} is the even smaller set of those who go t=
o a store from an house.<span></span></span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div>A bridi states that x1 is part of the set =
defined by the selbri.</div><div>This view made simpler for me to move on a=
nd get the rest, I hope it can help you too.</div><div><br></div>For those =
versed in a more formal reasoning, this interpretation is supported by the =
fact that relations are a subset of the cartesian products of sets. In theo=
ry all sets are equally important but in Lojban the set that is used for th=
e sumti place x1 is given a special treatment, thats why my interpretation =
attaches the other sumti places to the selbri first.Note that this is exact=
ly what is done when we speak of "bridi tails".<div>
<br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la .remod.<span></span><br>
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