Received: from mail-ia0-f186.google.com ([209.85.210.186]:47760) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TsDub-0007qE-LG; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:43:03 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f186.google.com with SMTP id y26sf11797627iab.3 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=g6e05V3Ow4D7Ax96t/d4mDyND5YfyITyy7gzXkW3HIo=; b=sgEoHg2hjaS/SISv4Lx2RN4Aap9DSx20sgDwMQ7TbESBD2Qe5QbVlGNx1QXdNUvpRF qCThBJL6BNoi1iIegpnR31uSlxZUDbw7OpEvxTvd2eijE3whmmZB2eldwVchvDnNo393 IIKXWpeIevEED7kBXH9WgW9/H15xJvKvxlvp2ow3DjXpFqkRwX0WUOF/pvV1H4ftgWZn NFkNZmEwmUFuJRDUbMGw4DERwlo8VWLHJufctMx1aal+nCp+1H71dFnB/RHsFozCuYZ2 +FzTFwD/L4N0AHJ/SrH3bKzVdORSoh2qzkUBPNd37fdfrkTHA58bqF6vpqezMsA5njci MApg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=g6e05V3Ow4D7Ax96t/d4mDyND5YfyITyy7gzXkW3HIo=; b=CDlRgGY2IHBETdoHP2dVY/s8MGM6JUSEYYSs5iNoIkn/7K9WdDHif3Adb8B1TJ/3g/ SgqYT7GxpXP28gClUG7/WZSctJmCuSrME6BOS8qwF5y0tfK1gKYmIO2NmF0h/YahoS6Y ISgfa2HwpfTld14wSxgrCIFKKPadm+4PO73ARSfqjrmqPyi7lopstBcDqsaMttbTkYDX 1vtyaVwBVSiuwckeeTKg+1FwuJJVfNxwQxE7EYzdupNMUtXMTr1zI99LDjzKw93H+5ng k8G+830glsiZFN8y9YiFh7+35MbbmOc86mTfzxfzDWOgsMWH6SXi0Gfmw/fAfQe4+9Wb 7/JA== X-Received: by 10.50.37.242 with SMTP id b18mr1904555igk.6.1357569762255; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.153.194 with SMTP id vi2ls1710802igb.22.gmail; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.121.66 with SMTP id i2mr47396336icr.28.1357569761001; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.121.66 with SMTP id i2mr47396335icr.28.1357569760984; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hw1si509765igc.3.2013.01.07.06.42.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.170; Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so17667558obc.29 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.172.229 with SMTP id bf5mr33139834oec.81.1357569760815; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:42:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 07:42:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: APE: Lojban haiku From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee86c59e9f204d2b3d784 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 7304 --bcaec54ee86c59e9f204d2b3d784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi manti It's nice to see new people joining in on these. Further, not only do I see nothing wrong with your haiku, I think that they are very good from an artistic standpoint. I especially like the second one. It's too bad that "arrive" doesn't have a gismu, because tolyli'a is too many syllables and klama is potentially confusing, but that's a fault of the language, not the author. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:52 AM, manti wrote: > Felt as though I should try writing a few, probably messed something up > seeing as this is pretty much my first Lojban ever, but whatever. > > loi so'i cribe > cu denpa lo nu klama > fa lo rau finpe > > The many bears > wait for the coming > of enough fish > > doi la .skami. .io > do gasnu .uanai ma .i > do spofu gau do > > Mr. Computer > What are you doing? > You're breaking yourself > > > On Sunday, January 6, 2013 6:17:04 AM UTC-6, aionys wrote: >> >> Firstly, for anyone who's interested in Haiku in general, there's a huge >> amount of (English) Haiku at http://www.haiku.com/ >> >> So, this week's APE is to write a haiku in Lojban. >> >> Haiku are normally about nature, but all we're going to care about is >> that it's in three lines; a line of 5 syllables, a line of 7 syllables, and >> a final line of 5 syllables. >> >> Lojban seems to me to be a language especially suited to haiku, so I >> imagine this APE will be especially fun one. >> >> I made the effort of making both the English translation and the Lojban >> be haiku, but the rest of you don't have to if the English is difficult to >> fit into haiku: >> >> co'a lo vensa >> lo cifxrula ba banro >> ja'e lo nunmle >> >> when the spring begins >> the flower buds will blossom >> and so comes beauty >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/9xnlWR0ZJVIJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec54ee86c59e9f204d2b3d784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coi manti

It's nice to see new people joining in on these.
Further, not only do I see nothing wrong with your haiku, I think that th= ey are very good from an artistic standpoint. I especially like the second = one.

It's too bad that "arrive" doesn't have a gismu, beca= use tolyli'a is too many syllables and klama is potentially confusing, = but that's a fault of the language, not the author.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:52 AM, manti <wakkawalross@gmail.com>= wrote:
Felt as though I should try writing a few, probably messed something up see= ing as this is pretty much my first Lojban ever, but whatever.

loi s= o'i cribe
cu denpa lo nu klama
fa lo rau finpe

The many be= ars
wait for the coming
of enough fish

doi la .skami. .io
do gasn= u .uanai ma .i
do spofu gau do

Mr. Computer
What are you doing= ?
You're breaking yourself

On Sunday, January 6, 2013 6:17:04 AM UTC-6, aionys wrote:
Firstly, for anyone who's interested in Haik= u in general, there's a huge amount of (English) Haiku at http://www.haiku.com/

So, this week's APE is to write a haiku in Lojban.

Haiku are normally about nature, but all we're going to care about = is that it's in three lines; a line of 5 syllables, a line of 7 syllabl= es, and a final line of 5 syllables.

Lojban seems to me to be a lang= uage especially suited to haiku, so I imagine this APE will be especially f= un one.

I made the effort of making both the English translation and the Lojban= be haiku,=A0 but the rest of you don't have to if the English is diffi= cult to fit into haiku:

co'a lo vensa
lo cifxrula ba banro ja'e lo nunmle

when the spring begins
the flower buds will bl= ossom
and so comes beauty

--
mu'o mi'e = .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi = patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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mu'o = mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi= .luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father= . :D )

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