Received: from mail-gg0-f186.google.com ([209.85.161.186]:47012) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TtPso-0001xb-BD; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:42:00 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f186.google.com with SMTP id y6sf552601ggc.23 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version :to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TaoQAWrxorZtVWdCwWMLHh0AixSKi+HxU5lx08w936U=; b=qq5ayolbVpvRQUz+XUFwEsgAkjACpp2OjVQEZW9tXqb1/fPWHfG1/myIXPjZlD8jN9 ivfChi2ZA6U8vQK98lLzHh5ot+7FYsZrmCPunKOCI/QkEiwnVRwn9JUhY9T5cKog4hFV RdxZJb5uL8LFhn5JG/X7UEEuZxWok2KCXxaQfTr74mjaAq+tLFnouRHOUTISx0POn91a wwiWOsF4lvMTv8f10nY4L0XPfTyCT0xSfqtVPka5KRCY8043cr46aRfwB50kuN/pzZRM xvlZ9H86PWxBKcTTB9eNqqFny39C5tHKdwbjo9cdsDrR7ynsg8JnFSnI28Tm45AbsAqh XYnQ== X-Received: by 10.50.5.174 with SMTP id t14mr2751319igt.11.1357854107491; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.150.145 with SMTP id ui17ls5168394igb.13.canary; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.81.78 with SMTP id y14mr915969ick.19.1357854107052; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.81.78 with SMTP id y14mr915968ick.19.1357854107040; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com. [209.68.5.15]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id d5si893744iga.1.2013.01.10.13.41.46; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.15 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.15; Received: (qmail 46638 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2013 21:41:45 -0000 Received: from 84.175.65.74 (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (84.175.65.74) by relay01.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 21:41:45 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 84.175.65.74 Message-ID: <50EF3598.4010107@plasmatix.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:41:44 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A string that ends with X References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.15 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1191 la mudri cu cusku di'e > I'm trying to translate this Bill Cosby quote: "Always end the name of > your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.". I'd say: ko ro roi tercme lo do panzi da poi lo karsnale'u cu ro moi lo ke'a lerfu .i se va'o bo lo cmene ca lo nu se krixa cu xamgu se tirna "Always call your child something which has a vowel letter as its last letter. Then, when you yell it, the name will be better heard." Or, in a more relaxed style: ko ro roi selfamgau lo cmene pe lo do panzi lu'e lo karsna "Always have the name of your child end with a vowel." The techcicality here is that a string of letters or a word does not end with a sound, it ends with a letter representing that sound. One can choose to ignore this (remove the lu'e) or not (keep the lu'e). mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.