Received: from mail-wg0-f63.google.com ([74.125.82.63]:37052) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TtyuF-0006wA-KU; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:52 -0800 Received: by mail-wg0-f63.google.com with SMTP id dq12sf964358wgb.28 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3+FeK8+tbC/HRHmtFxwzfiH0ESQW+1fa/sbOtttuqFI=; b=v13ONmKAo2M3OElN9HMC5CS6XFuSkqoMNV3kft0sYZ86x/NlpOa4bsCMZYTY1umo83 ecLTXk/yJTy1y9EN8OJXJKeZIIhdGmYjdJcSWwzeLg2KSZJOvquXJO82lhec14BMQ5fY iDC00UBRg7WU/5i5BWZfC8OHwda7OXg76tJ2B273anXEMbgY4+ytNm3y2pCLfHrEDpXp lrMkYvQksCnyF17ieU0XOTsGb1b6gkwo0uDlcrEAcywrxC4SX+rT1HgG7S8WhdBB83TO fLPGl2P5301ECcrgkRIdOMYLJThBUtEqS8RZ193mLbAZKaAEetvgIjhJMjh3pJ8DK/cY 7ixQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-gm-message-state :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=3+FeK8+tbC/HRHmtFxwzfiH0ESQW+1fa/sbOtttuqFI=; b=JFRj+wRNaoD3tkwDRwZYZ+KNXu/UpnsxucShhEnQBn5jqIrTYfLKQE9D+bEClBbZYA OLpf9st0CWyTyMnJyV0sTjuFd7A2WQZrFFtc6nt1MZr4RgU411pMwMFVZPWo5ONhGAhd taUlCwVKnskupEetcSzUYnfOnjTFiHVRoIUMUY0dfAzvq7zsB2gF5ElV3g4n5BW8wHNT dLDRYGtLkankIUF0bgR2qZR/sAvFM/dl030IueDkprvBoyounktLvu5g08vMcg+sd9cM JP8FIih70VpHyQn18A+4f7xXAmtB+m1jVlb/8xUnWALWLcSVVTpd57UIiTQOEqLmcXNE I5uw== X-Received: by 10.180.94.1 with SMTP id cy1mr378648wib.5.1357988735712; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.87.7 with SMTP id t7ls641674wiz.43.canary; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.81.40 with SMTP id w8mr447383wix.0.1357988734322; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.81.40 with SMTP id w8mr447382wix.0.1357988734310; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v2si101198wix.3.2013.01.12.03.05.33 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.212.175 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ross@rossogilvie.id.au) client-ip=209.85.212.175; Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hm11so333994wib.14 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.86.36 with SMTP id m4mr3528162wiz.5.1357988733109; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.138.141 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:05:02 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [58.109.95.92] In-Reply-To: <220A81A2-EC08-4197-BC63-F55B19A0C6BB@asb.gaggle.net> References: <220A81A2-EC08-4197-BC63-F55B19A0C6BB@asb.gaggle.net> From: Ross Ogilvie Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:05:02 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: APE: Lojban haiku To: lojban-beginners X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJ8kqDdscq2lYyS0UBDJiP+YoJ1pqhYNJ0jL3uj7dp2I22gcyc54BjD618euL0nmx2/ijZ X-Original-Sender: ross@rossogilvie.id.au X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.212.175 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ross@rossogilvie.id.au) smtp.mail=ross@rossogilvie.id.au Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442859c0bc6d704d3156420 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2368 --f46d0442859c0bc6d704d3156420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's more about the sentence structure and assertion. When you say "difficult to imagine", the main assertion is about the difficulty. In the sentence {lo si'o ciska lo ro fa'oma'o cu xanri} the main assertion (the selbri) is about imagining (xanri). Adding fu'inai after xanri is like huffing to indicate that you find the imaging is difficult. mu'o mi'e ros On 12 January 2013 09:24, Annie wrote: > e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d0442859c0bc6d704d3156420 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's more about the sentenc= e structure and assertion. When you say "difficult to imagine", t= he main assertion is about the difficulty. In the sentence {lo si'o cis= ka lo ro fa'oma'o cu xanri} the main assertion (the selbri) is abou= t imagining (xanri). Adding fu'inai after xanri is like huffing to indi= cate that you find the imaging is difficult.

mu'o mi'e ros

On 12 January 2013 09:24, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.ne= t> wrote:
e


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.
--f46d0442859c0bc6d704d3156420--