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And now, my own. This is a saying that my mother z"l created (originally accidentally misstating her intended aphorism), but became a family saying in (the Englihs equivalent of) this form forever since: lo nu zerle'a ku cu nu zerle'a sera'a lo fepni be li mu .a lo sicni be fi lo fepni be li mu --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --14dae93b63741c0e5804d342651b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at= 11:46 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
Some translations from Polish:

lo pu'o dandu na crijinru
("Co ma wisie=C4=87, nie utonie", 'what has to hang, will not= drown'; in
Polish there's one word for 'sink' and 'drown', so I ma= de up a lujvo
for 'to be lost by being submerged')

=C2=A0 Since the original proverb clearly refers to those who are to die = by drowning and those who are to die by hanging, why not use the existing w= ords jaurvasmro and dadycatra?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And now, my own. =C2=A0This is a saying t= hat my mother z"l created (originally accidentally misstating her inte= nded aphorism), but became a family saying in (the Englihs equivalent of) t= his form forever since:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0lo nu zerle'a ku cu nu zerle'a ser= a'a lo fepni be li mu .a lo sicni be fi lo fepni be li mu
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejysp= a

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