Received: from mail-qc0-f192.google.com ([209.85.216.192]:45892) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqVV0-0001c0-Qp; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:28 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f192.google.com with SMTP id c21sf8725427qcs.29 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=xZ4SmUEo0JzJknLiAhXBICuoKgoVEmM1JPLRjLwzKoQ=; b=dqg/4VbrUvLQO2wI5HptQBWAVzjMn+v+UqOSLGALQ3BpHfyWKrpoRfN8kFTVYE8+2t lcDgfZ/yXRxrRIL6+c0JTMLR9PwZld/QbhjfhKmNA2dAn1A4N9TesT5JaQo8fR/KDrwb Q9jC6RINkmrUkq8i7j6fIr/nRukKUCZGVBjn2PMw7WRYYuQfJykDqkxzdwEtGunz39by 6HiaUbGHpZLvFQuAYkrlmkvaR36sl/8YLB5iA6Va40uMESH2XxyZAxO8LjXaqbUrQmLa ka69o0cob6CSxQdMRA65+L3oOPZVnjE7z7nQcmYmEk5SvORtU7xHTLliat9FXC6W2BGu g1QQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=xZ4SmUEo0JzJknLiAhXBICuoKgoVEmM1JPLRjLwzKoQ=; b=tg9z//P/sekhu+hI3TFtAJWsGClm9ViYRMXNg0DiIuUP/JWhWYmXRKIMCG36unFRPj EsM8YU4PtGJ0Mp9ITehsjpVEDbrsx8PIT4YcWdRLeOLTsdWr7pJaH/fItX+H2NI80jrf yQHVzsbFyImj/io3Pk6ao8y4MCg8ARGjoaFn7v+ZuBCBzrZDdNZn5/AKXqM+7CEqaYGB NIYJblz2PLZHMlB0QWCCTwq4c6MNa/aQyNXe+r8SqsQu2kgsL2KJ9ZO9jSRThKjrLHww xub06crznnQyXTZCTTSaJT1YoICEMMlb4pr6YYWDvJQly/v2zh0p6tRMuufm1PltAPcb e0AQ== X-Received: by 10.50.203.9 with SMTP id km9mr12768756igc.7.1357160711661; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.151.243 with SMTP id ut19ls10693560igb.20.gmail; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.53.231 with SMTP id e7mr41875632igp.1.1357160711169; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.53.231 with SMTP id e7mr41875629igp.1.1357160711155; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si4965931iga.1.2013.01.02.13.05.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.175; Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id qd14so17060496ieb.6 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.41.165 with SMTP id g5mr41675121igl.66.1357160711068; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.194.193 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:05:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:05:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340f6f161ad604d2549ad9 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3601 --14dae9340f6f161ad604d2549ad9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > >> You're not suggesting that the same rule applies to {-me'a}, right? >> > > Basically, yes. > > Ok, but if (following the {-gau} pattern) {ko'a rodme'a ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a} means {ko'a mleca lo su'u ko'e broda ko'i k'o' ko'u fo'a} I fail to understand how something may be less than an abstraction. The problem is that mleca2 is the term of comparison. In the list I made I try to accound for the difference in sumti places. Writing down the gloss in Lojban makes clear how each one shouldbe used Maybe those changes in my list are the "adjustments" you mentioned? remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --14dae9340f6f161ad604d2549ad9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Remo Dentato <rdenta= to@gmail.com> wrote:
You're not suggesting that the same rule applies = to {-me'a}, right?

Basically, yes.


Ok, but if (following the {-gau}= pattern)
=A0 =A0=20 {ko'a rodme'a ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a}
mean= s
=A0=A0=A0 {ko'a mleca lo su'u ko'e=20 broda ko'i k'o' ko'u fo'a}

I fail to understand= how something may be less than an abstraction. The problem is that mleca2 = is the term of comparison.

In the l= ist I made I try to accound for the difference in sumti places. Writing dow= n the gloss in Lojban makes clear how each one shouldbe used

Maybe= those changes in my list are the "adjustments" you mentioned?
remo

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