Received: from mail-ye0-f187.google.com ([209.85.213.187]:37128) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TvoLb-0003S1-HL; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:37 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f187.google.com with SMTP id m14sf1380861yen.14 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=WI2zWs7qwbOPB+fsbvLndkONpnoZ8gt3vNrhRKIbn6U=; b=nrpG7vKWqUccG80m57kjvvWYZTEEh/3EmL9UutNt/o6Z9kWkhY3AP99jNVD1Mdnb5q ZrErhFDK/6tT1qQSRHi0qQ3Xhtao/kGmG3XfK30qZQt4WuBw/hDpgP+WRpGxK0wMBvot 6anjE6y+TJq5eEjWR3m3RRgbuzdN2xk4qUNrhmf1MZ1IdT1nZn6SZhau+hPArSDnr7PR rBFyWBjotYyNseQGJu7e7FAiOoRN7SLhhcWyKo/ut5l1BbUlShKG1iw6sBwno0Oi+kSV K9de7coYFiGmvrWhCfKutkjIXD18KOLEwL3jq7PrHbpsjSdu7RoqvKNvgA0mnZpQiKsa /pAQ== X-Received: by 10.49.28.162 with SMTP id c2mr986327qeh.41.1358424804897; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.30.36 with SMTP id p4ls1525515qeh.74.gmail; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.136.9 with SMTP id v9mr2384080yhi.4.1358424804207; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.136.9 with SMTP id v9mr2384079yhi.4.1358424804195; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i27si46938yhe.4.2013.01.17.04.13.23; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A66C215C9 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:13:23 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: APE (Audience Participation Exercise): Lojbanic words of wisdom Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:13:19 -0500 Message-ID: <9570020.LQBorBfXTA@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-35-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1584979.QmhfcDl2gM@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1152 On Thursday, January 17, 2013 01:32:33 Jacob Errington wrote: > On 16 January 2013 14:01, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > lo nu zerle'a cu nu zerle'a .iju decru'u je'i kau dekfepni > > That top-level je'ikau seems off for more than one reason; why not > just "jo nai" ? First, the thing she intended to say, "five cents or a dime", would make the right bridi not tautologically true if the conjunction were "jo"; the humor is in using a conjunction that makes sense when the amounts are different with two amounts that are equal. Second, the right bridi is on the right side of "iju", so its truth value is irrelevant. I add "kau" because the statement as a whole is not a question. Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.