Received: from mail-qc0-f192.google.com ([209.85.216.192]:33154) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TxMl7-0005ez-MI; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:19 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f192.google.com with SMTP id g10sf1138075qcs.19 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yfz7lvj7QFuKRZeyYfHlt9aZdGkRNpr1HyAtI08F+Ic=; b=NtFIruNNa4Upwo0NF11mrY7klnnR/psCPXdZNWAQyh3iTJe/3v7wlRLWOq6C4StMDp jkgnwox5Ap+mT6fU+aBu3n1TxAbsKU/FOO7ShZ6LoQLRxkeNe8RWrQ4y2dwTJqCbqKRy BOzzVQMM0zgDX+JSaqALUEK2JxBecu4HFAZPpdIDq+lOjyWSnZAF8MGxPOeeseKOXrm8 AfI2r1xc3vlfrGfGJFI+G76CX5MwLtSeDNpeNlZxT/WYum6XMXh877xiIvlNZVfDVC+Q Q+dBw7WoQsTKlwvlKjiJ+ZAW0A1LN+dHtTIYW6Yy8f0QRb22OzcSoXLGLh7+YEWsIQZY OXJQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yfz7lvj7QFuKRZeyYfHlt9aZdGkRNpr1HyAtI08F+Ic=; b=AXHOVoTaW7XCJqTfZWyB9EiOw0X2jWDkwZuw8jTlR117P0k6XkQwRfgg7qJjTVg5xJ IPLwqw7RsZYj/SM7J47Zn+5hTMMu5XkqJ0jpJOM6bFyajzYPSZFVPgaC/r4aX8hsMfh6 AQmH6HvgPb3WB0xdIB6iLlQ3tsrmc9tiVYWk3tK15SQnEZzI85tZK+QMZao52pwGVDQe l/zrrkFdw4uu1uvC2P5y4HxXaYCUVH9ON5UYhkhE4/1E+JlN/YTzZZNsfqPwo645nW0H ll6s+YUoci45crNJiBliFdetE59mOlVNwxsIBuYaZgou4goBEsjPtSmAy/i94qxo8wEx A5xA== X-Received: by 10.49.116.139 with SMTP id jw11mr4125655qeb.12.1358795410899; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.0.132 with SMTP id 4ls3377173qee.56.gmail; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.59.4.168 with SMTP id cf8mr9777899ved.9.1358795409714; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.59.4.168 with SMTP id cf8mr9777897ved.9.1358795409695; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2si4260382vdi.2.2013.01.21.11.10.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.50; Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ft2so5511735vbb.9 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.11 with SMTP id n11mr17991164vdi.131.1358795409406; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.221.4.131 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4361505a-cd01-41f0-9afb-dc34fe93335e@googlegroups.com> References: <4361505a-cd01-41f0-9afb-dc34fe93335e@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:10:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "Closed" From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9d64b33a6c04d3d135c5 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4152 --20cf307c9d64b33a6c04d3d135c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would probably just say {na ckule ca lo cabdei}, which if you consider the other arguments to {ckule} actually does work. This applies to {zarci} as well. It's a little unsatisfactory, though, I admit. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM, mudri wrote: > My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact > in Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of > "closed". There are two other words for different senses of the word > ({ganlo} = closed passageway; {tolgubni} = closed group/source &c), but > there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doors being > closed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/05aux2qX31QJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:
My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to ex= press that fact in Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing = that kind of "closed". There are two other words for different se= nses of the word ({ganlo} =3D closed passageway; {tolgubni} =3D closed grou= p/source &c), but there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than t= he windows and doors being closed.

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