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[69.132.98.107]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x63si595721yhl.2.2013.01.29.05.31.31; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.132.98.107; Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:7c91:e2e7:d0e7:67ec]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A055A5D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:31:28 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] how to translate "velocity"? Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:31:30 -0500 Message-ID: <2623461.od3AjrzuVl@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-36-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <66cb3c0c-5aaf-44e3-be71-e330ad46129f@googlegroups.com> References: <66cb3c0c-5aaf-44e3-be71-e330ad46129f@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1728 On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 01:03:15 la gleki wrote: > what is the word for "velocity" after all? > dont tell me it's {nilsutra} > velocity=3Dlength/time English, at least, distinguishes velocity (a vector) from speed (a scalar).= =20 French has both words (v=C3=A9locit=C3=A9/vitesse); Spanish has just the on= e. There is an economic term "velocity". Economic velocity has dimensions of= =20 inverse time; it is the amount of money changing hands in unit time divided= by=20 the total amount in circulation. We should have a different word for this t= han=20 for length/time. We could use a lujvo "muvnilsutra" and another "cajnilsutra". Or maybe we= =20 should use a fu'ivla. In the six source languages (from Wiktionary): English: velocity Chinese: =E9=80=9F=E5=BA=A6 (s=C3=B9d=C3=B9) Spanish: velocidad Arabic: ? Russian: =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C Hindi: ? There's a Maltese word, but it's obviously from Italian, not Arabic. If we want to distinguish the scalar from the vector, we could say=20 "li'urnilsutra" for the scalar and "muvnilsutra" for the vector, since "muv= du"=20 has origin and destination, and "litru" doesn't. Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den= . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.