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  It appears Arabic uses the same word for both -- =D8=B3=D8=B1=D8=B9=D8=A9=
 (sur'ha(/ta))
(although the title of the wikipedia article does add =D9=85=D8=AA=D8=AC=D9=
=87=D8=A9 (vector))
        --gejyspa



On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 01:03:15 la gleki wrote:
> > what is the word for "velocity" after all?
> > dont tell me it's {nilsutra}
> > velocity=3Dlength/time
>
> English, at least, distinguishes velocity (a vector) from speed (a scalar=
).
> French has both words (v=C3=A9locit=C3=A9/vitesse); Spanish has just the =
one.
>
> There is an economic term "velocity". Economic velocity has dimensions of
> inverse time; it is the amount of money changing hands in unit time
> divided by
> the total amount in circulation. We should have a different word for this
> than
> for length/time.
>
> We could use a lujvo "muvnilsutra" and another "cajnilsutra". Or maybe we
> should use a fu'ivla. In the six source languages (from Wiktionary):
> English: velocity
> Chinese: =E9=80=9F=E5=BA=A6 (s=C3=B9d=C3=B9)
> Spanish: velocidad
> Arabic: ?
> Russian: =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C
> Hindi: ?
> There's a Maltese word, but it's obviously from Italian, not Arabic.
>
> If we want to distinguish the scalar from the vector, we could say
> "li'urnilsutra" for the scalar and "muvnilsutra" for the vector, since
> "muvdu"
> has origin and destination, and "litru" doesn't.
>
> Pierre
> --
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> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
> .icu'u la ma'atman.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 It appears Arabic uses the same word for both --=C2=
=A0=D8=B3=D8=B1=D8=B9=D8=A9 (sur&#39;ha(/ta)) (although the title of the wi=
kipedia article does add=C2=A0=D9=85=D8=AA=D8=AC=D9=87=D8=A9 (vector))<div>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa</div><div>=C2=A0<div><br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 01:03:15 la gleki wrote:<br>
&gt; what is the word for &quot;velocity&quot; after all?<br>
&gt; dont tell me it&#39;s {nilsutra}<br>
&gt; velocity=3Dlength/time<br>
<br>
</div>English, at least, distinguishes velocity (a vector) from speed (a sc=
alar).<br>
French has both words (v=C3=A9locit=C3=A9/vitesse); Spanish has just the on=
e.<br>
<br>
There is an economic term &quot;velocity&quot;. Economic velocity has dimen=
sions of<br>
inverse time; it is the amount of money changing hands in unit time divided=
 by<br>
the total amount in circulation. We should have a different word for this t=
han<br>
for length/time.<br>
<br>
We could use a lujvo &quot;muvnilsutra&quot; and another &quot;cajnilsutra&=
quot;. Or maybe we<br>
should use a fu&#39;ivla. In the six source languages (from Wiktionary):<br=
>
English: velocity<br>
Chinese: =E9=80=9F=E5=BA=A6 (s=C3=B9d=C3=B9)<br>
Spanish: velocidad<br>
Arabic: ?<br>
Russian: =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C<br>
Hindi: ?<br>
There&#39;s a Maltese word, but it&#39;s obviously from Italian, not Arabic=
.<br>
<br>
If we want to distinguish the scalar from the vector, we could say<br>
&quot;li&#39;urnilsutra&quot; for the scalar and &quot;muvnilsutra&quot; fo=
r the vector, since &quot;muvdu&quot;<br>
has origin and destination, and &quot;litru&quot; doesn&#39;t.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Pierre<br>
--<br>
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi&#39;afra tu&#39;a do<br>
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga<br>
.icu&#39;u la ma&#39;atman.<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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