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UIs also: I recently said {la ju'oru'e .alis.}. Is that the correct way to 
say "Alice, I think"?

On Friday, 18 January 2013 15:59:44 UTC, mudri wrote:
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> If a sumti prefixed with {la} (with either a selbri or cmene inside) has 
> an associated relative clause/phrase or linked sumti, how much of these are 
> part of the name, and how much are just extra information? There are 
> situations where both are useful.

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UIs also: I recently said {la ju'oru'e .alis.}. Is that the correct way to =
say "Alice, I think"?<br><br>On Friday, 18 January 2013 15:59:44 UTC, mudri=
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.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">If a sumti prefixed wi=
th {la} (with either a selbri or cmene inside) has an associated relative c=
lause/phrase or linked sumti, how much of these are part of the name, and h=
ow much are just extra information? There are situations where both are use=
ful.</blockquote>

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