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On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:02:29 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrot= e:
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013= 10:18:59 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> parbi loka mitre loka snidu
> pab  -  tre  -  nid

The Book recommends using the rafsi of "frinu" for this (the word "fi'u= "=20
doesn't have a rafsi). Now there's a table or something in the Book sta= ting or=20
implying (I'm too tired to look it up) that the rafsi of "frinu" is "fi= 'u",=20
thus giving "trefi'usnidu", whereas the gimste assigns "fi'u" to "cfipu= ". This=20
situation is, of course, cfipu.

This is= a well-known issue.
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/CLL,+aka+Referenc= e+Grammar,+Errata

I wish {-fi'u-} was a rafsi = of frinu again.

 
But "trefrinysnidu" is correct regardless of=20
what "fi'u" is the rafsi of.

This doesn't help with a word for "velocity", which shouldn't have any = unit=20
names in it, despite the word "voltage".

Pierre
--=20
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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