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On 21 January 2013 13:04, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:

> My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact
> in Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of
> "closed". There are two other words for different senses of the word
> ({ganlo} = closed passageway; {tolgubni} = closed group/source &c), but
> there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doors being
> closed.


Although it's not a totally satisfactory solution, you can simply use {na}.
.i ri'agi snime carmi gi na ckule "Because of the snow, there was no
school." (Now, to actually say that it was cancelled, you could use {sei lo
jatna cu jdice} in the second bridi.)
.i ze'a lo nicte na zarci (This one is weirder:) "When it's night, it's not
a store." This might seem a bit weird, but it makes sense. A store that's
closed is a store you can't buy from, and is thus not a store anymore. This
about it though, what I actually said for the school is
"With-physical-cause snow, it's not a school."

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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On 21 January 2013 13:04, mudri <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jam=
myatjammy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jammyatjammy@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact in=
 Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of &quot=
;closed&quot;. There are two other words for different senses of the word (=
{ganlo} =3D closed passageway; {tolgubni} =3D closed group/source &amp;c), =
but there&#39;s a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doo=
rs being closed.=A0</blockquote>

<div><br></div><div>Although it&#39;s not a totally satisfactory solution, =
you can simply use {na}.=A0</div><div>.i ri&#39;agi snime carmi gi na ckule=
 &quot;Because of the snow, there was no school.&quot; (Now, to actually sa=
y that it was cancelled, you could use {sei lo jatna cu jdice} in the secon=
d bridi.)</div>

<div>.i ze&#39;a lo nicte na zarci (This one is weirder:) &quot;When it&#39=
;s night, it&#39;s not a store.&quot; This might seem a bit weird, but it m=
akes sense. A store that&#39;s closed is a store you can&#39;t buy from, an=
d is thus not a store anymore. This about it though, what I actually said f=
or the school is &quot;With-physical-cause snow, it&#39;s not a school.&quo=
t;</div>

<div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div><div>=A0</div></div>=
<br>

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