Just that gejyspa wants to use a more precise veljvo than me.

I think it's understandable enough to use {cu'urga'o} for "closed f= or business".

mu'omi'e jongausib

Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone

31 jan 2013 kl. 11:44 skrev la gle= ki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail= .com>:

On Wednes= day, January 30, 2013 9:20:12 PM UTC+4, Michael Turniansky wrote:
The lack of a wo= rd meaning "not open for business" has been a topic of discussion many many= times in lojban's history. Really, I'm not sure why there isn't a gi= smu for it, since it seems to be a very basic concept. That would be = very high on personal list for a gismu should baselining ever be released.<= /div>

ba'anai do jbocre doi la gejyspa i se= ki'u bo ma'a bilga lo nu jundi lo nu jinvi fa do i ji'a la camgusmis pu cus= ku fi mi fe zoi gy I disagree with your words "Think 1000 times before crea= ting new gismu" gy

i seki'ubo e'o do zbasu so'o lo glico xe fanva= mupli be lo gismu poi se smuni simsa zoi gy not open for business gy i ce'= o bo mi stidi tu'a lo cnino gse bacru

I rememb= er you being a jbocre. Therefore, we should take your words into account. B= esides, Robin told me once " I disagree with your words "Think 1000 ti= mes before creating new gismu".

Therefore, please create several = english examples of the meaning "not open for business" or similar to it. T= hen I'll suggest a new gismu (it's sounding).

&nbs= p;

In any event, if you really think about it, a case co= uld be made for "spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed", since = it's not available for its normal purpose. Another possibility is "se= dicra"

= --gejyspa

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, jongausib <so.co...@gmail.com> wrote:

I suggest:

{cu'urga'o}: g1 (entrance-= way/store/company etc) is closed/shut/not open, preventing access to organi= zed activity g_2=3Dc1, by g₃.
{cu'urkalri}: k₁ (portal/passage/entrance-way) is open/ajar/not = shut, permitting passage/access to _g2=3Dk1, by g₃.
/jongausib

Den m=E5ndagen den 21:e januari 2013 kl. 19:04:39 UT= C+1 skrev mudri:

My school was closed due to snow to= day. I attempted to express that fact in Lojban (with a few extras), but go= t stuck on describing that kind of "closed". There are two other words for = different senses of the word ({ganlo} =3D closed passageway; {tolgubni} =3D= closed group/source &c), but there's a bit more to a closed school/sho= p than the windows and doors being closed.

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