Received: from mail-bk0-f55.google.com ([209.85.214.55]:55668) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U69I3-0003e6-DE; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:44 -0800 Received: by mail-bk0-f55.google.com with SMTP id w5sf783449bku.10 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=YYqp8MIVcBsnrNnmuox+KIIdKUeql8+ngMsGNBpYH4c=; b=f00pIZa/HOjw/g+m3uD0OwUBKgAHi/CMb35MUjOql8X3T2sZwZVSBuACkf8ViAyqj+ qHaBY0+gIFczP3YY0Kk+UyeI1XPUTd3rA6WOt+qHkVFiKLJW/jBmpFDJdDBeZUEMjpdv jX+ry5DpknEYmloOcZG7VZLM3cMndVUjaJwKmusAIYRSzoQbNh3fp47I1R+HNPAASGNh UZ4hhwQuLBptXea7NgfUxr5nQNcnyM8OSYbiZ2gGhUBvSp5MWhVzPG9I023RXZSg42SO EspXvyWV9ZBsxgOSJqX6JuOqGjrNAGu5J40maGcGQfuymVAQGMHYo2LwcRzIUwebyEt2 rhhA== X-Received: by 10.180.107.135 with SMTP id hc7mr37945wib.1.1360888587609; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:27 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.100.2 with SMTP id eu2ls109451wib.49.gmail; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:26 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.211.1 with SMTP id v1mr863704eeo.0.1360888586165; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:26 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.211.1 with SMTP id v1mr863703eeo.0.1360888586154; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6si9314220eej.0.2013.02.14.16.36.26 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-d9ba4642.pool.mediaWays.net [217.186.70.66]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7923C865018 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:36:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:36:24 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Unlikely Lojban Valentine's Day Card... Message-ID: <20130215003624.GA25179@samsa.fritz.box> References: <2932ae23-9614-4045-95a0-b4bf5f92ae2b@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2932ae23-9614-4045-95a0-b4bf5f92ae2b@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1299 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 04:14:56PM -0800, Demian Koller wrote: > Would anyone be willing to tell me if I'm saying something correctly and/= or=20 > suggest a better way? I'm trying to say "I hope the gift I made makes you= =20 > happy.": >=20 > .a'o lo se dunda cu se zbasu mi cu se gleki do This doesn't parse, more than one cu in one sentence/jufra without abstract= ions doesn't work out. =2Ea'o lo se dunda noi mi zbasu cu se gleki do Is probably a _more_ correct version of what you tried to say. However, {lo se gleki} is an event, no object, so this is wrong as well. What do you want to say? Should _receiving the gift_ make him/her happy? That would be something alo= ng the lines {.a'o do gleki lonu do te dunda le se zbasu be mi}. If you mean something nonspecific involving the object, you can also use {.a'o do gleki tu'a le se zbasu be mi}. mi'e la .van. mu'o --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEdgwgACgkQMBKLZs4+wjzm8wCfWFvMpd1d3xQuGytUH6BFMnfX zdAAnRRLyadFG60O/yjzjQ4Cg3M22ZLm =DI26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z--