Received: from mail-vb0-f55.google.com ([209.85.212.55]:63960) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U93LI-0003Px-RD; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:52:02 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f55.google.com with SMTP id fc21sf463888vbb.10 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:51:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8YQ5a4v6Ekdwfw+CfBnQ4HMhNBnA8dBI59PCbsGpeLA=; b=efwtryAmP4Ni59ThPEipEFhXhwduePTs9WeFbHxBuyKQuSSVDEpMKmRvT4ba/cRg3E O2R3mGf4XcCTkM9rjbWetHhL2nUnPZHiI/SkbLU+HT0gtRIEKN3RTioLVED9gLuqkZGX vr9kb3O1Tp8Qt+XAVKS5kjggNxSh9pqXurHfyhm4Go2CtVto2MCkYcSFrOpczhCpUpED 4SIbS1vn2bfgjKvKtYleDmDX3mEST9QM+T97EyaG/VuS/gR7cDDzeRuSoaRSJDyLuoQp FHNl7fRyo4E3YRvP6JjWO7mikN0lxV6QzuXDMzuNVyqVmxogeWfJJJ14iPZjrJgfyXHw 48VQ== X-Received: by 10.49.94.129 with SMTP id dc1mr327074qeb.22.1361580709752; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:51:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.36.138 with SMTP id q10ls470778qej.2.gmail; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.76.73 with SMTP id a49mr1933253yhe.30.1361580708502; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.76.73 with SMTP id a49mr1933252yhe.30.1361580708490; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h26si437626yhf.3.2013.02.22.16.51.48; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D19217AA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:51:47 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Terminator Elision Question. Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:51:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3504071.ecPCBd4fm0@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-36-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20130222232701.GB8739@samsa.fritz.box> References: <7ce0d7ae-e6e6-4a62-9fea-c50dc85f9af4@googlegroups.com> <20130222232701.GB8739@samsa.fritz.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1044 On Saturday, February 23, 2013 00:27:01 v4hn wrote: > > the translation without 'boi' would be 'I describe the number 22 to a > > friend.' Does the 'li' before 're re' imply a terminator before the 'lo'? > > Yes, the term governed by {li} takes up one sumti slot. > And {li} takes the longest following string which matches a number > expression, which in this case is {re re}. Similarly, if you make a tanru and the seltau has a number linked with "be", you don't need "be'o", e.g. "lo litce be li pa djacu" = "lo litce be li pa be'o djacu". Pierre -- loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.