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  In the particular gismu you cite, I would say "standard of judgment"
           --gejyspa


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:

> coi rodo
>
> One of the many things about lojban which puzzle me lately
> are all these "by standard x" places.
>
> Take {fenki} for example which is defined as
>
> x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a
> frenzy (one sense) by standard x2
>
> Given that definition, what does {tu'a ko'a fenki mi} mean?
>
> Does it mean ko'a is crazy in my opinion,
> or does it mean ko'a is crazy when compared to me?
>
> Phrasing it differently, which standard
> do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_
> or a standard of _comparison_?
>
>
> mi'e la .van. mu'o
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 In the particular gismu you cite, I would say &quot;st=
andard of judgment&quot;<div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa</div><div><br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, v4hn <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:me@v4hn.de" target=3D"_blank">me@v4hn.d=
e</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">coi rodo<br>
<br>
One of the many things about lojban which puzzle me lately<br>
are all these &quot;by standard x&quot; places.<br>
<br>
Take {fenki} for example which is defined as<br>
<br>
x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a<br>
frenzy (one sense) by standard x2<br>
<br>
Given that definition, what does {tu&#39;a ko&#39;a fenki mi} mean?<br>
<br>
Does it mean ko&#39;a is crazy in my opinion,<br>
or does it mean ko&#39;a is crazy when compared to me?<br>
<br>
Phrasing it differently, which standard<br>
do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_<br>
or a standard of _comparison_?<br>
<br>
<br>
mi&#39;e la .van. mu&#39;o<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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