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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 PM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 01:48:00PM -0500, Michael Turniansky wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:
> > > Take {fenki} for example which is defined as
> > >
> > > x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a
> > > frenzy (one sense) by standard x2
> > > [...]
> > > Phrasing it differently, which standard
> > > do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_
> > > or a standard of _comparison_?
> >
> >   In the particular gismu you cite, I would say "standard of judgment"
> >            --gejyspa
> >
>
> Finally someone has an opinion about it, ki'e la gejyspa
>
> I really hope this does not depend on any particular gismu,
> because all these places are phrased the very same.
> Therefore, I would like to have one accepted interpretation of them.
>

The standard can be any kind of standard, which can be utterly trivial,
like "by the standard of me". "Standard of judgment" is just one example
that makes sense in the context of {fenki}.

stevo

>
> Also, given these places have one meaning, how would
> one phrase the other meaning accordingly?
>
>
> v4hn
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 PM, v4hn <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:me@v4hn.de" target=3D"_blank">me@v4hn=
.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 01:48:00PM -0500, Michael Turnian=
sky wrote:<br>
&gt; On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, v4hn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:me@v4hn.d=
e">me@v4hn.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt; &gt; Take {fenki} for example which is defined=
 as<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a<br>
&gt; &gt; frenzy (one sense) by standard x2<br>
</div>&gt; &gt; [...]<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; &gt; Phrasing it differently, which standard<br>
&gt; &gt; do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_<br>
&gt; &gt; or a standard of _comparison_?<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt; =A0 In the particular gismu you cite, I would =
say &quot;standard of judgment&quot;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Finally someone has an opinion about it, ki&#39;e la gejyspa<br>
<br>
I really hope this does not depend on any particular gismu,<br>
because all these places are phrased the very same.<br>
Therefore, I would like to have one accepted interpretation of them.<br></b=
lockquote><div><br></div><div>The standard can be any kind of standard, whi=
ch can be utterly trivial, like &quot;by the standard of me&quot;. &quot;St=
andard of judgment&quot; is just one example that makes sense in the contex=
t of {fenki}.=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>stevo=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Also, given these places have one meaning, how would<br>
one phrase the other meaning accordingly?<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
v4hn<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br>

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