Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:34833) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U2ZtO-0006yd-Af; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:30 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id bs12sf1556471qab.26 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Q8W/M0tOEbwKEnLxYGNfFcZUpPLq80OfmEh0NoG3cE4=; b=O8RB4gfLmzL0c6pBXsxJXxAaUNnvIamqh8CbLuO0mDRSA1kDA093ymAuLmapWU5QXU 2wFvHbJ9kRMABXek1nF+IwE6JizykOzxfCzY2DFheNY6NZl0sRo+784E1FAmY8lZzKV1 nnU6slO8/rrfAOSsqZ+QzQnUWumGQdCHntnDuDwxPSy1xeVyUApi4RIdg1cVcBGHIVJl Icq3YHueptmPb+IavXmlsFK04EbRDXcxWgf9ggA6oMm3Q2S0kYka57z/rqmNkvH6O+Ex yp2gIUAPBXPkOBUQSAGF099c0q0IeBkpL/FXbz0kdbA7LhivCngDQmVrFg/+e//bZpMN qR2w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Q8W/M0tOEbwKEnLxYGNfFcZUpPLq80OfmEh0NoG3cE4=; b=UZ25D/EIZwlAQikatReDa856W/kUO38WuqtrN9D+pKYTEic/67pu5TFkoGwyglcEdc nyVe0kA5NPW5JMB/Orsn5o/gEgXD1rcHMyQAk/xp+FzClAK1r11sxph5g91scZqsSwWm BdPe0no1qgxKcUN4zF0MtTSteAYPbR/9024T85T95rHJOfCwCjyMzdNGof4qhtJ2tacQ Vk/VrpPoz3jdutgWGbuOR45tbXsCpISjgx6bNkiTJlJ/tKCYfg00ex84k60QY36UlvIo AdjGV1M9MCyOJMoKwtPw7A5eq7Nc13MD12WdyVO8NYLzYts0MaADKQLRBHCX68Rb7q6I 5PHA== X-Received: by 10.50.150.180 with SMTP id uj20mr908486igb.7.1360037535024; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.188.133 with SMTP id ga5ls1873449igc.27.gmail; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.15.68 with SMTP id pt4mr17238185icb.13.1360037534235; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.15.68 with SMTP id pt4mr17238184icb.13.1360037534208; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si1106751iga.1.2013.02.04.20.12.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.42; Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so7219857oag.29 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.188.101 with SMTP id fz5mr17276958obc.0.1360037534046; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.78.35 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:11:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jacob Errington Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] BAI tag clarification To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462f8a1918ec04d4f26aad X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5237 --f46d04462f8a1918ec04d4f26aad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .i lai cipnrkorvo cu traji lo ni mi xebni kei loi ro xadykelci'e bende Why is everyone afraid of simply refactoring the sentence to use traji or zmadu or mleca as the main selbri? :P Otherwise, if you're dying to use a BAI: .i mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo terai loi ro xadykelci'e bende On 4 February 2013 14:37, .arpis. wrote: > Let's suppose I want to say "I hate the Ravens, more so than any other > sports team." (because them winning caused me to lose sleep). > > {.i da'i mi troci cu fanva zo'e sa'a mu'i lo du'u lo nu jinga ku rinka lo > nu mi na'e raumei sipna} > > I can say {lo ni mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo cu zmadu tu'a lo drata ke > xadykelci'e girzu} or {lai cipnrkorvo lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu ku > zmadu lo ni mi xebni ce'u} > > Does {mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo se mau tu'a lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu} > mean (more or less) the same thing? If not, how does it differ? > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --f46d04462f8a1918ec04d4f26aad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .i lai cipnrkorvo cu traji lo ni mi xebni kei loi ro xadykelci'e bende<= div>Why is everyone afraid of simply refactoring the sentence to use traji = or zmadu or mleca as the main selbri? :P

Otherwise= , if you're dying to use a BAI:
.i mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo terai loi ro xadykelci'e bende

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4 February 2013 14:37, .arpis. <rpg= lover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
Let's su= ppose I want to say "I hate the Ravens, more so than any other sports = team." (because them winning caused me to lose sleep).

{.i da'i mi troci cu fanva zo'e sa'a mu'i lo du&#= 39;u lo nu jinga ku rinka lo nu mi na'e raumei sipna}

I can say {lo ni mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo cu zmadu tu'a lo dra= ta ke xadykelci'e girzu} or {lai cipnrkorvo lo drata ke xadykelci'e= girzu ku zmadu lo ni mi xebni ce'u}

Does {mi xebni lai ci= pnrkorvo se mau tu'a lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu} mean (more or l= ess) the same thing? If not, how does it differ?

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mu'o mi'e .arpis.

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