Received: from mail-wg0-f57.google.com ([74.125.82.57]:58077) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ULXaj-000482-6X; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:33 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f57.google.com with SMTP id z11sf125975wgg.12 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=/C1GofMnF58gQ9B9TtZdv6jRJNLAEqkrAvChPIqLIR8=; b=TYljFSNFsrsAOhiPkeZgwQy82E1PDJGTobKrCGIvQiQ62Fz4M84QAYIZUce56oVENr T6/dKsyypFsBGdcXugHW3nR5udv7qKVzOwsTep4rQ838TEQkIQKKAIfBV5x6o8OZXgtP Oo0tsYECWKCVyG7WPCR2vRle8skIhMufCyU0pF/GFgeR84N3Ug+tvHSq58/jthrsSWTR Gufmh7uSept/xZxgis1Ydz43bBoRtK9RMlKWj904swZi433hNZGbM+sJ9XQ+j0UtxtKp DPcL0y6oqPvll1u8XmHPHEdTElITLl4ivNFiZaKlPmp7Xz4xBc92FlXviLAaA+deoPxr W6dw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=/C1GofMnF58gQ9B9TtZdv6jRJNLAEqkrAvChPIqLIR8=; b=ayITeFETR470PLLrcWC72weCOczjrhCQKOW99507DD+VlpJKSsdwOMQe8pjQoYu5q2 ZZItXGzW94nHZ0ixMLszDBaIcPsOCz3uZrRWhq20fLUFK5vVPJd90265IKo3+5K8/eJj CdjYUfIqEstT/MJJgzg+vkb7VxjftM4ItgkRRU5szEacPkSdKn7ji7+t09392Y2ewSX9 cG0aXTDG4ksvkwFLUMQ9+jXEG4ecBgigyarL8lqm+EsUxzdX3Ou/wBvBfA/vRCxE+11q KquUc+xQeQh6Ev4lM0+ne4/pTk1JhdXHSS6vefDhkVLMfvFQH48FsLWAGB2gq9dGMu2C SHKw== X-Received: by 10.180.100.102 with SMTP id ex6mr132137wib.7.1364556921210; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.24.37 with SMTP id r5ls148139wif.3.gmail; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.205.24.134 with SMTP id re6mr206034bkb.7.1364556920785; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9si209799bki.2.2013.03.29.04.35.20 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::231; Received: by mail-la0-x231.google.com with SMTP id fs13so466759lab.36 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.151.97 with SMTP id up1mr1218896lbb.45.1364556920573; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.9.230 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <374dce10-c5a1-4a78-9966-53931b281173@googlegroups.com> <20130328202536.GI6592@samsa.fritz.box> <8f0f63e5-63f5-497b-b4ef-d978f77c0761@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:35:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A question about the sentences understanding in Lojban From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b342d6086d2b504d90eaab2 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 7295 --047d7b342d6086d2b504d90eaab2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:26 AM, la gleki wrote: > >> On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32:38 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM, la gleki wrote: >>> >>>> On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:40:44 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 28 March 2013 16:25, v4hn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:04:31PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>>>>> > There are, however, exceptions to this, which is why >>>>>>> > many of us have the desire to enumerate and then expel >>>>>>> > the exceptions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way, is there already a documented list of outliers >>>>>>> which should be changed? People go on and on about that >>>>>>> issue, but I didn't see a real list yet (though I also didn't search >>>>>>> for it - There is just never a link in any of the respective posts). >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/**BPF**K+Section%3A+gismu+Issues >>>>>> >>>>>> Although this page has a lot of old, irrelevant content now. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're talking about the regularization within semantic >>>>>> categories, such a list hasn't yet been produced, I think, probably due to >>>>>> the lack of a complete semantic categorization of gismu. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Last I heard, gleki was working on building that. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No one can sto you from building alternative lists which is even >>>> preferable. >>>> >>> >>> You mean other than my complete lack of desire to do so? >>> >> >> Lojbanic syndrom of laziness? .i'u >> > > More like programmer's symptom of not-duplication of effort. > Oh yes, coupled with precedence-taking obligations and lack of interest. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On F= ri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:26 A= M, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32:38 AM UTC+4, = aionys wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10= :57 PM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:40:44 AM UTC+4,= aionys wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Jacob Errington= <nict...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 March 2013 16:25, v4hn <m...@v4hn.d= e> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:04:31PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> There are, however, exceptions to this, which is why
> many of us have the desire to enumerate and then expel
> the exceptions.

By the way, is there already a documented list of outliers
which should be changed? People go on and on about that
issue, but I didn't see a real list yet (though I also didn't searc= h
for it - There is just never a link in any of the respective posts).


Although this page has a lot of old, irrelevant content= now.

If you're talking about the regularizati= on within semantic categories, such a list hasn't yet been produced, I = think, probably due to the lack of a complete semantic categorization of gi= smu.

Last I heard, gleki was working on building tha= t.

No one can sto you= from building alternative lists which is even =A0preferable.=A0

You mean other than my complete lac= k of desire to do so?

Lojbanic syndrom of laziness? .i'u

More like programmer's= symptom of not-duplication of effort.

Oh yes, coupled with precedence-taking obligation= s and lack of interest.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko c= mima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the = Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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