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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:03:08 -0500 References: <17420344.123.1326349669489.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcb25> <3F2CFF8C-81D1-48A0-B501-221F740B4D4A@asb.gaggle.net> <579AF042-B693-4EF9-92D8-95DF18409C2C@gmail.com> <0C61C0EC-7562-47C2-B875-EEE78C2846C3@gmail.com> <2368C8E9-74CA-461A-8943-0011E7B898F6@asb.gaggle.net> <1F9487EB-A1F1-4C6A-9AE9-07F41DE9A9CA@asb.gaggle.net> To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <1F9487EB-A1F1-4C6A-9AE9-07F41DE9A9CA@asb.gaggle.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DE6BCF61-C35D-4ED9-B283-0018F26DCBF4" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 24212 --Apple-Mail=_DE6BCF61-C35D-4ED9-B283-0018F26DCBF4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, if they have any pictures or anything like that. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Annie wrote: > So, what about apps that are specificY for us? Are they also somehow con= sidered graphics? >=20 > Sent from my iPod >=20 > On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >=20 >> Screen readers just try to speak the text that it can find.=20 >> Devin Prater >> r.d.t.prater@gmail.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Annie wrote: >>=20 >>> Then I must not be understanding the meaning of "graphicso" correctly i= f screenffeaders qualify. >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPod >>>=20 >>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Devin Prater wrot= e: >>>=20 >>>> We can use a GUI. Windows is a GUI. All of Apple's stuff is a GUI. All= apps, unless they're through the command line, or the braille note, are GU= I's. The braille note is not a GUI, neither is the book sense or any other = blindness specific product, because it is all text and sound. >>>> Devin Prater >>>> r.d.t.prater@gmail.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Annie wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Now, what do we blind folks want to do with _graphics? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sent from my iPod >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Devin Prater wr= ote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Graphical user interface. >>>>>> Devin Prater >>>>>> r.d.t.prater@gmail.com >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Annie wrote= : >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> What's a GUI? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Sent from my iPod >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Devin Prater wr= ote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I, personally, wish some big company like Google or Apple would in= clude Lojban as a language in their webpages or operating systems. Maybe ma= ke a Lojban TTS system too. I would really love reading/hearing the GUI in = Lojban. >>>>>>>> Devin Prater >>>>>>>> r.d.t.prater@gmail.com >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:08 PM, cogitatoralpha@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> co'i ro do >>>>>>>>> I hear that the programming of such an app may be quite difficult= . I understand little of computers and other such things. But a second opti= on; and one that would help with the dispersal and promotion of our languag= e is to create a comprehensive and possibly interactive PDF. I hear the new= soft ware is much better that it was and can include sounds to be spoken t= o make sure pronunciation is correct. However as I say I know little of com= puters and it would be required for such things to be researched. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> co'o ro do=20 >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:27:49 AM UTC, spitaki wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> coi >>>>>>>>> is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners ipod app?= apps like flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thinking may= be a more lojban specific app would help for people who are already wanting= to learn, getting to look at it on the go, or maybe to hear spoken lojban= , or maybe just to make it more accessible to a wider variety of people. Ju= st a thought.=20 >>>>>>>>> co'o >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl= e Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,= send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroup= s.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginne= rs?hl=3Den. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, = send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups= .com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at 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On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

So, what about apps that are specificY for us? Are they  also so= mehow considered graphics?

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 28= , 2013, at 5:34 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:

Screen readers just try to speak the text that it can find. 
On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

Then I must not be understanding the meaning of "graphicso" correctly= if screenffeaders qualify.

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 2= 8, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:

We can use a GUI. Windows is a GUI. All of Apple's stuff is a GUI.= All apps, unless they're through the command line, or the braille note, ar= e GUI's. The braille note is not a GUI, neither is the book sense or any ot= her blindness specific product, because it is all text and sound.

On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

Now, what do we blind folks want to do with _graphics?

Sent fr= om my iPod

On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:=

Graphical user interface.
Devin Prater



On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

What's a GUI?

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 25, 2013,= at 6:14 PM, Devin Prater <devin= prater@live.com> wrote:

I, = personally, wish some big company like Google or Apple would include Lojban= as a language in their webpages or operating systems. Maybe make a Lojban = TTS system too. I would really love reading/hearing the GUI in Lojban.
<= div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
Devin Prater



On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:08 PM, cogitatoralpha@gmail.com wrote:

co'i ro do

I hear that the programming of such an app may be quite difficu= lt. I understand little of computers and other such things. But a second op= tion; and one that would help with the dispersal and promotion of our langu= age is to create a comprehensive and possibly interactive PDF. I hear the n= ew soft ware is much better that it was and can include sounds to be spoken= to make sure pronunciation is correct. However as I say I know little= of computers and it would be required for such things to be researched.

co'o ro do 
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 6= :27:49 AM UTC, spitaki wrote:

coi=20
is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners ipod app? apps= like flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thinking maybe a = more lojban specific app would help for people who are already wanting to l= earn, getting to  look at it on the go, or maybe to hear spoken lojban= , or maybe just to make it more accessible to a wider variety&nbs= p;of people. Just a thought. 
co'o

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