Received: from mail-la0-f59.google.com ([209.85.215.59]:47398) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UD4dV-0007Mp-5O; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:25 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f59.google.com with SMTP id eb20sf2908350lab.24 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=W7j+fK5U9klB7YaYpZC24vqJ1D1rS7D9FFPZvoRUqFM=; b=PN/h0soR56+hyN4meT18MZf5PQG5rZs0+/iiPR31dg8z7MGw1+Eki9V7+YFnUMPmoT fMRnhmYUgHWIotl1G+Qgfi+Xbu1goUwBCT8NfJReHS9iPqYBdajlxC9vGVPVwTG9vQMG 9sPjFxxgxPFYwQbf0WWaqwaOx82oi7vXUlTetQxxqUyMAwyWLAJZinSm1NGqo+0YG/GI bCqY+x2TnIr5+8j2D6T8+3yCcbw1M4sqV4Cy9ma0/YitmwFfFT3vTzEQz83qhU9xEj15 LWs51H0e/drVywu2kxb6xj08gk34KzOJ0pbnBBt+hGMS9n+aMfsM1OWz3+YAPLVpZH/q ag8A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=W7j+fK5U9klB7YaYpZC24vqJ1D1rS7D9FFPZvoRUqFM=; b=sc6pk37NS0R0DKpoVJRFid1m3Sa/1LD+r+B2H18ZH/2itDkHQgkpI/F4SbbOge2QVa YNFI65Fypdea4gbvBu5q4FRhfOIP1A/WO5KW+D5IvdSB9w1EY9Aw2KGUMTJ7JzkJE9Z0 g8w6tfGBZQ4xjlUKgRwTfHhG3Vgo0cb57N3hu2TlgodT0inzj1nmQwKZw5HS/Dbppn4B C8jNf5mJgsMGPoxoaZvlcsXKt06RQ0dU31X/FA6Cjn6CIG58TDhf15XQdEbuKp/u7ppH 6oFA8C0mCwAH/ZE2RBboU5bYLNcgPbO12wEmS75vhL6hTjdUWb1755kGCumPaIqC5kuh B2MQ== X-Received: by 10.180.106.227 with SMTP id gx3mr1602869wib.12.1362538992875; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:12 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.73.79 with SMTP id j15ls53949wiv.7.canary; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.204.9.140 with SMTP id l12mr1232831bkl.7.1362538991507; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1si2013051bkt.3.2013.03.05.19.03.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::234; Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so6922345lab.11 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.45.140 with SMTP id n12mr23556882lam.36.1362538991097; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.5.196 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 19:03:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <26109c69-7826-4420-9b39-18b7bb0d35fa@googlegroups.com> References: <26109c69-7826-4420-9b39-18b7bb0d35fa@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:03:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lo ve tivni From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55245168e9ceb04d738d4b1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5678 --bcaec55245168e9ceb04d738d4b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No. It's the television. lo tivni - television broadcaster (i.e., the radio tower sending out the signal- also the station (Such as KQRV, which here broadcasts FOX programming) lo se tivni - television programming (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc.- also individual shows, ads, etc.) lo te tivni - television channel (FOX is on channel 12 here) lo te tivni - television receiver (i.e., the thing which receives the broadcast and decodes it into audio and visual information. Typically a TV, but there are other things that can also do this) {la'oi.KQRV. tivni la'oi.FOX. li pare lo vidni to poi vica'u me mi toi} "KQRV broadcasts FOX on channel 12 to the monitor (which is close in front of me)." On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, junpen wrote: > coi > > I'm not good at English, and I'd like to ask the meaning of "television > receiver" that is the translation of "lo ve tivni". Can this mean > "television watcher"? > > .i xu zoi zoi television receiver zoi ka'e se smuni lo du'u prenu gi'e > catlu lo se tivni kei .e nai lo du'u cabra fi lo catlu be lo se tivni > > mi'e la .junpen. mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --bcaec55245168e9ceb04d738d4b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No. It's the television.

lo tivni - television broadcaster (i.e.= , the radio tower sending out the signal- also the station (Such as KQRV, w= hich here broadcasts FOX programming)
lo se tivni - television programmi= ng (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc.- also individual shows, ads, etc.)
lo te tivni - television channel (FOX is on channel 12 here)
lo te tivni= - television receiver (i.e., the thing which receives the broadcast and de= codes it into audio and visual information. Typically a TV, but there are o= ther things that can also do this)

{la'oi.KQRV. tivni la'oi.FOX. li pare lo vidni to poi vica'= u me mi toi}
"KQRV broadcasts FOX on channel 12 to the monitor (whi= ch is close in front of me)."


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, junpen <nergdnila@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0coi

I'm not good at English, and I'd like to ask the meaning of "t= elevision receiver" that is the translation of "lo ve tivni"= . Can this mean "television watcher"?

.i xu zoi zoi television receiver zoi ka'e se smuni lo du'u prenu g= i'e catlu lo se tivni kei .e nai lo du'u cabra fi lo catlu be lo se= tivni

mi'e la .junpen. mu'o

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