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Typically a TV, > but there are other things that can also do this) > > {la'oi.KQRV. tivni la'oi.FOX. li pare lo vidni to poi vica'u me mi toi} > "KQRV broadcasts FOX on channel 12 to the monitor (which is close in front > of me)." > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, junpen wrote: > >> coi >> >> I'm not good at English, and I'd like to ask the meaning of "television >> receiver" that is the translation of "lo ve tivni". Can this mean >> "television watcher"? >> >> .i xu zoi zoi television receiver zoi ka'e se smuni lo du'u prenu gi'e >> catlu lo se tivni kei .e nai lo du'u cabra fi lo catlu be lo se tivni >> >> mi'e la .junpen. mu'o >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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je'e ki'e .ui sai

So, can you say {la'o zoi YouTube zoi cu tivni la'o zoi Lojban P= romotional Video zoi la'o zoi LogicalLanguageGroup zoi lo skami}?

mi'e la .junpen. mu'o

2013/03/06 12:03 "Jonathan Jones" <= eyeonus@gmail.com>:
No. It's the television.

lo tivni - television broadcaster (i.e.= , the radio tower sending out the signal- also the station (Such as KQRV, w= hich here broadcasts FOX programming)
lo se tivni - television programmi= ng (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc.- also individual shows, ads, etc.)
lo te tivni - television channel (FOX is on channel 12 here)
lo te tivni= - television receiver (i.e., the thing which receives the broadcast and de= codes it into audio and visual information. Typically a TV, but there are o= ther things that can also do this)

{la'oi.KQRV. tivni la'oi.FOX. li pare lo vidni to poi vica'= u me mi toi}
"KQRV broadcasts FOX on channel 12 to the monitor (whi= ch is close in front of me)."


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, junpen <nergdnila@gmail.com> wrote:
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I'm not good at English, and I'd like to ask the meaning of "t= elevision receiver" that is the translation of "lo ve tivni"= . Can this mean "television watcher"?

.i xu zoi zoi television receiver zoi ka'e se smuni lo du'u prenu g= i'e catlu lo se tivni kei .e nai lo du'u cabra fi lo catlu be lo se= tivni

mi'e la .junpen. mu'o

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