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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> What you don't seem to understand is that tivni /can't/ mean anything
> /except/ that, because Lojban words have /one/ meaning, or to put it
> another way, they can only equate to /one/ sense of an English word.


    But the question is what that "one thing" is.  Just like a tirxu can be
a leopard or tiger or jaguar "tivni" doesn't necessarily imply transmission
by radio waves.  What it does seem to imply is a broadcasting of a
(presumably visual) piece of information through some type of transmission
type to some sort of way of receiving that information.  There is no
mention of radio frequency, signal modultion (Which does not exist in
digital tv, etc).  That stuff is left to the x5 piece.  Cable television,
for example, would fit that bill, where there is no radio frequency
transmissions from the time it leaves the cable company.  Logie Baird's
electromechanical televisions would also fit that bill,  and I see no
reason why youtube transmissions would not, either.

  (But I do agree with you that it would not be the general spread of
information, which would be under benji.  Benji is a superset of tivni and
cradi)

           --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:09=
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om" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
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id;padding-left:1ex">
What you don&#39;t seem to understand is that tivni /can&#39;t/ mean anythi=
ng /except/ that, because Lojban words have /one/ meaning, or to put it ano=
ther way, they can only equate to /one/ sense of an English word.</blockquo=
te>
</div><br>=A0 =A0 But the question is what that &quot;one thing&quot; is. =
=A0Just like a tirxu can be a leopard or tiger or jaguar &quot;tivni&quot; =
doesn&#39;t necessarily imply transmission by radio waves. =A0What it does =
seem to imply is a broadcasting of a (presumably visual) piece of informati=
on through some type of transmission type to some sort of way of receiving =
that information. =A0There is no mention of radio frequency, signal modulti=
on (Which does not exist in digital tv, etc). =A0That stuff is left to the =
x5 piece. =A0Cable television, for example, would fit that bill, where ther=
e is no radio frequency transmissions from the time it leaves the cable com=
pany. =A0Logie Baird&#39;s electromechanical televisions would also fit tha=
t bill, =A0and I see no reason why youtube transmissions would not, either.=
=A0<div>
<br></div><div>=A0 (But I do agree with you that it would not be the genera=
l spread of information, which would be under benji. =A0Benji is a superset=
 of tivni and cradi)</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejy=
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