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Please don't groan about what must be another xorlo question.

I was reading http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo again, and came=
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across these two sentences: =93In my post-xorlo writings, lo outnumbers le =
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about three to one (at a guess). I only use le when I'm talking about a=20
specific item.=94. To me, those seem at odds. The first bullet point after=
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this implies that the =93only=94 here is being used for effect, rather than=
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logic, so I'm still stuck. I would assume that specific objects are talked=
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about as frequently, if not more so, than generic descriptions. At least on=
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Twitter, where most of my writing practice happens, this seems to be the=20
case.

It makes me wonder whether I have misunderstood. Can you either reassure me=
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Please don't groan about what must be another xorlo question.<div><br></div=
><div>I was reading&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+x=
orlo">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo</a>&nbsp;again, and came =
across these two sentences: =93In my post-xorlo writings, lo outnumbers le =
by about three to one (at a guess). I only use le when I'm talking about a =
specific item.=94. To me, those seem at odds. The first bullet point after =
this implies that the =93only=94 here is being used for effect, rather than=
 logic, so I'm still stuck. I would assume that specific objects are talked=
 about as frequently, if not more so, than generic descriptions. At least o=
n Twitter, where most of my writing practice happens, this seems to be the =
case.</div><div><br></div><div>It makes me wonder whether I have misunderst=
ood. Can you either reassure me or point out where I am misunderstanding?</=
div>

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