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References: <17420344.123.1326349669489.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcb25> <3F2CFF8C-81D1-48A0-B501-221F740B4D4A@asb.gaggle.net> <579AF042-B693-4EF9-92D8-95DF18409C2C@gmail.com> <0C61C0EC-7562-47C2-B875-EEE78C2846C3@gmail.com> <2368C8E9-74CA-461A-8943-0011E7B898F6@asb.gaggle.net> <1F9487EB-A1F1-4C6A-9AE9-07F41DE9A9CA@asb.gaggle.net> <17855DD5-BAA9-435B-92BA-3AA8CC14E682@gmail.com> From: Annie X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: <17855DD5-BAA9-435B-92BA-3AA8CC14E682@gmail.com> Message-Id: <0B531561-5D58-484E-A6CA-15D050CCBD0A@asb.gaggle.net> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:19:56 -0500 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on mx07.gaggle.net X-GOMS-Validated-Recipients: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Gaggle-Info: *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. 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Sent from my iPod On Mar 31, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pr= ater@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, if they have any pictures or anything like that. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Annie <park.annie@a= sb.gaggle.net> wrote: So, what about apps that are specificY for us? Are they also somehow consid= ered graphics? Sent from my iPod On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pr= ater@gmail.com> wrote: Screen readers just try to speak the text that it can find. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Annie <park.annie@a= sb.gaggle.net> wrote: Then I must not be understanding the meaning of "graphicso" correctly if sc= reenffeaders qualify. Sent from my iPod On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pr= ater@gmail.com> wrote: We can use a GUI. Windows is a GUI. All of Apple's stuff is a GUI. All apps= , unless they're through the command line, or the braille note, are GUI's. = The braille note is not a GUI, neither is the book sense or any other blind= ness specific product, because it is all text and sound. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Annie <park.annie@a= sb.gaggle.net> wrote: Now, what do we blind folks want to do with _graphics? Sent from my iPod On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pr= ater@gmail.com> wrote: Graphical user interface. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Annie <park.annie@a= sb.gaggle.net> wrote: What's a GUI? Sent from my iPod On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Devin Prater <devinprate= r@live.com> wrote: I, personally, wish some big company like Google or Apple would include Loj= ban as a language in their webpages or operating systems. Maybe make a Lojb= an TTS system too. I would really love reading/hearing the GUI in Lojban. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:08 PM, cogitatoralpha@gmail= .com wrote: co'i ro do I hear that the programming of such an app may be quite difficult. I unders= tand little of computers and other such things. But a second option; and on= e that would help with the dispersal and promotion of our language is to cr= eate a comprehensive and possibly interactive PDF. I hear the new soft ware= is much better that it was and can include sounds to be spoken to make sur= e pronunciation is correct. However as I say I know little of computers and= it would be required for such things to be researched. co'o ro do On Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:27:49 AM UTC, spitaki wrote: coi is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners ipod app? apps like= flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thinking maybe a more = lojban specific app would help for people who are already wanting to learn,= getting to look at it on the go, or maybe to hear spoken lojban, or maybe = just to make it more accessible to a wider variety of people. Just a though= t. co'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+uns= ubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loj= ban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. 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What are you talking about, pictur= es?

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 31, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Dev= in Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.= com> wrote:

Yes, if th= ey have any pictures or anything like that.

On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

So, what about apps that are specificY for us? Are they  also so= mehow considered graphics?

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 28= , 2013, at 5:34 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:

Screen readers just try to speak the text that it can find. 
On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

Then I must not be understanding the meaning of "graphicso" correctly= if screenffeaders qualify.

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 2= 8, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:

We can use a GUI. Windows is a GUI. All of Apple's stuff is a GUI.= All apps, unless they're through the command line, or the braille note, ar= e GUI's. The braille note is not a GUI, neither is the book sense or any ot= her blindness specific product, because it is all text and sound.

On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

Now, what do we blind folks want to do with _graphics?

Sent fr= om my iPod

On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:=

Graphical user interface.
Devin Prater



On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

What's a GUI?

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 25, 2013,= at 6:14 PM, Devin Prater <devin= prater@live.com> wrote:

I, = personally, wish some big company like Google or Apple would include Lojban= as a language in their webpages or operating systems. Maybe make a Lojban = TTS system too. I would really love reading/hearing the GUI in Lojban.
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Devin Prater



On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:08 PM, cogitatoralpha@gmail.com wrote:

co'i ro do

I hear that the programming of such an app may be quite difficu= lt. I understand little of computers and other such things. But a second op= tion; and one that would help with the dispersal and promotion of our langu= age is to create a comprehensive and possibly interactive PDF. I hear the n= ew soft ware is much better that it was and can include sounds to be spoken= to make sure pronunciation is correct. However as I say I know little= of computers and it would be required for such things to be researched.

co'o ro do 
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 6= :27:49 AM UTC, spitaki wrote:

coi=20
is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners ipod app? apps= like flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thinking maybe a = more lojban specific app would help for people who are already wanting to l= earn, getting to  look at it on the go, or maybe to hear spoken lojban= , or maybe just to make it more accessible to a wider variety&nbs= p;of people. Just a thought. 
co'o

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