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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:21:10 +0200
Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pierre Abbat a =E9crit :
> > On Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:36:12 daeldir . wrote:
> >> coi
> >>
> >> I'm a french currently learning lojban, with the english ressources (I=
'm
> >> following the google wave lessons, reading (not actively) the CLL, and
> >> using memrise for vocabulary). As I am reading a lot of english anyway=
, it
> >> is not a big deal for me.

> > I see you've already found the French Lojbanist mailing list. You could=
 ask
> > your friends to join there.

I already gave these links to my friends. I don't know if they will join: t=
hey prefer web forums (one of them may maintain a PHPBB one if you wish).

> >
> > Pierre

> Bonjour ! I wasn't aware of this French mailing list. ? I guess it isn't=
=20
> used very often. What is its address?

The french mailing list archive is found here:

http://mail.lojban.org/lojban-fr/

From here, in a mail, I found the way to subscribe to it, here:

http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/lojban-fr

It was in a sleeping state when I found it (with the last message in novemb=
er 2012, and very sparse activity). But people are answering, which is good=
 sign .ui

>=20
> As for the *CLL <http://dag.github.com/cll/>* (the reference grammar),=20
> there is an ongoing French translation
> which can be found at the following address:
> .=20
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VT7tz5B1hqwVvMuhwaJTxy9aIiL4VdNE_yQQ7=
0FWpoI/edit?pli=3D1#heading=3Dh.yg76k6bc3164
> There is about four chapters translated so far. The project is lead by=20
> Xelan, so
> if you want to help you may want to contact him. :)

I was aware of this link, but because my computer is very weak, could not r=
ead it :-S. In fact, since the CLL is on github, I would have thought about=
 a fork (and I love editing text files ;-))=85 But as you say, it is a big =
task, and I was of course willing to translate lessons first. I take note t=
hat if I want to participate to the CLL translation, I will have to contact=
 Xelan.

>=20
> However translating the CLL is a long-term undertaking; beginning by=20
> translating
> the *Wave Lessons <http://www.lojban.org/tiki/wavelessonscontinued>*,=20
> which are much shorter and more beginner-friendly, is probably
> a better idea.

I realise that it was not clear that I did not want to translate the CLL ye=
t=85 I really want to translate lessons to begin with.

I was considering to translate the wave lessons first, but saw =96 reading =
the lojban lists =96 that their is also =93lojban for beginners=94. I was w=
ondering which one would it be better to translate. (I'm going for the wave=
 lessons if nobody makes me change my mind: they are on the wiki, which is =
nice to link translations)

>=20
> With regard to vocabulary, there is a good amount of gismu already=20
> translated,
> if I remember correctly.
>=20
> Here is a list:
> . http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/listing.html?lang=3Dfr;bg=3D1
>=20
> mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o
>=20

That list is very poor. On the french mailing-list, they sent me some bigge=
r lists (that are older than jbovlaste, if I understand). I don't know (yet=
) what to do with them. But I will focus on the lessons, for now.

mi'e la .daeldir. mu'o

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