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On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

> While this parses, it's...philosophically subtle at best. I think of {mi}
> and {do} as being temporally nonlocal, which means you can't restrict their
> *referent* by specifying a time, since they "exist in many times in the
> first place. I think if you want to specify a time it should be the time of
> an event, which is why I suggested the version that I did above. Similar
> issues ensue with the {me} version.
>

As you say, that's more a philosophical issue than a linguistic one.
Presumably you would have the same type of objections to English expresions
like "my old self", "the new me",  "you as a teenager", and so on.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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emporally nonlocal, which means you can&#39;t restrict their <i>referent</i=
> by specifying a time, since they &quot;exist in many times in the first p=
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