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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 29.05.2013 06:30, .iuROK. wrote: > coi coi do'u > {ko} is used in Lojban where imperative mood would be used in other > languages. [...] > > In Lojban, using {ko} (or experimental {ko'oi}) is THE method of > constructing "imperatives". For me, bare {ko broda} does not carry a > connotation of listener's obligation or subordination; it can be a > request, a permission, an advice, etc. A "connotation" MAY be > conveyed > by additional words: > .i .ei dai ko klama > .i ko sidju mi pe'u > .i .e'a ko zutse > .i .e'u ko sisku > But default connotation should be unspecified. [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Content-Length: 1219 On 29.05.2013 06:30, .iuROK. wrote: > coi coi do'u > {ko} is used in Lojban where imperative mood would be used in other > languages. [...] > > In Lojban, using {ko} (or experimental {ko'oi}) is THE method of > constructing "imperatives". For me, bare {ko broda} does not carry a > connotation of listener's obligation or subordination; it can be a > request, a permission, an advice, etc. A "connotation" MAY be > conveyed > by additional words: > .i .ei dai ko klama > .i ko sidju mi pe'u > .i .e'a ko zutse > .i .e'u ko sisku > But default connotation should be unspecified. mi tugni .i .e'u ko catlu la'e zoi zoi. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/lojban/ko$27oi/lojban/iIbv6XvpT4k/urC0lVbdxhgJ .zoi ji'a noi srana lo do preti mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.