Received: from mail-we0-f183.google.com ([74.125.82.183]:36305) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UZvvN-0005Pv-Oc; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:22 -0700 Received: by mail-we0-f183.google.com with SMTP id p57sf258594wes.20 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=VKqjg2waJj3dqVBG3EigZz4JBiBewQQ312AWQx8fmaM=; b=ME8WOjszF40sPNZwp4OcyKpDhyPj697+RObbpryFzdosAv3mt8fPKFyBGYyKhXiqLP 3eheqd0b2rjUtdbvajdqqZT+kuIf/IERxm2SgAbr+CqFMVXLt+nuUYFWI9lOYKA4kt0Y p1JgBz0WZQHUE1KMhr2hIGEbfuWI/MQEGQX2iAtFOD0pBOO1swdWyIgUEs33LxEERM6p yUVHBB+O/bNK5KmZKbmPUVARZpb/rEh9u/gCgIsopvjqazIpnxw7EU0yJcFlSDef7YjO LO6Ka4WrwvtoopY0Wz5k2AxRlsQGRU6DWCmHF1FIbj23a8d1CbNLeGF6hG3gtFTwNJ2i 2cIg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=VKqjg2waJj3dqVBG3EigZz4JBiBewQQ312AWQx8fmaM=; b=HccR7KJSsWOiJtgEXFNBuFBtIptFX7PNqvDyX2/fjksmooke973NF/PwC6W5T6F1bu 9mLvrd1sjtvxvBl9mvODKJbS6dFeswchnZ2ywKRv8zglmLh/wWqBteZtzUxphZNYMF/F iTNBCXA+YcpaSYljcfj4UcYoPOHWGBAEU7ifBcPRiPjji1p72bzFzOXJr4DbgBAabAVq GDuzyt/dOY5/cP4etloDD/m1Ak7H+Lwp6d2B4cBK/+0u1HsgWmbhBlE85CYeFpHMEzv+ 01iC9IoyJd8GKsCJ2fkC5fyk2mfrg0f1FHbdsZ4jWSBA+uK2vcGJyFS1XylNT5d/sdbH v8Gw== X-Received: by 10.180.78.197 with SMTP id d5mr1206586wix.17.1367987050201; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.93.234 with SMTP id cx10ls447206wib.23.gmail; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.21.226 with SMTP id y2mr2178584wie.5.1367987049169; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x230.google.com (mail-we0-x230.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u16si180470wij.2.2013.05.07.21.24.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::230; Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p60so1349315wes.35 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.61.237 with SMTP id t13mr7645036wjr.2.1367987049084; Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.28.42 with HTTP; Tue, 7 May 2013 21:24:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 23:24:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Looking for a definition From: Lee Carlson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lorddraqo@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lorddraqo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86caba1e4e3d04dc2d4edd X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 7533 --047d7b86caba1e4e3d04dc2d4edd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 fi'i je'e (I hope that I'm correctly expressing thankful understanding). So "roda roroi binxo" will suffice? On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:25 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I see two issues, neither necessarily wrong. > > First, it doesn't need to start with {.i} since it's not a continuation of > a previous utterance. > Second, I think {zo'e} is redundant. If a third argument were used after > {binxo}, {zo'e} would serve the function of filling the second argument and > thereby marking the next as the third, but here it just fills the second > argument with an explicit "doesn't matter/don't know", which is what a > blank already means. > > stevo > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Lee Carlson wrote: > >> For the longest time I have said: "Nothing is Constant except Change." I >> wanted to translate my intent to lojban and wound up with:"Everything >> Always Changes." Would an appropriate translation be: .i roda roroi binxo >> zo'e. >> >> -- >> The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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fi'i je'e (I hope that I'm correctly expressin= g thankful understanding). So "roda roroi binxo" will suffice?


On Tue, Ma= y 7, 2013 at 10:25 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wr= ote:
I see two issues, neither n= ecessarily wrong.=A0

First, it doesn't need to start= with {.i} since it's not a continuation of a previous utterance.=A0
Second, I think {zo'e} is redundant. If a third argument were used= after {binxo}, {zo'e} would serve the function of filling the second a= rgument and thereby marking the next as the third, but here it just fills t= he second argument with an explicit "doesn't matter/don't know= ", which is what a blank already means.=A0

stevo


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:10= PM, Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
For the longest time I have said: "Nothing is Constant except= Change." I wanted to translate my intent to lojban and wound up with:= "Everything Always Changes." Would an appropriate translation be:= .i roda roroi binxo zo'e.

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