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[68.230.241.215]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u10si161198qco.0.2013.05.21.04.25.40 for ; Tue, 21 May 2013 04:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.215; Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130521112540.BTD5804.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Tue, 21 May 2013 07:25:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.209.255.54]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id ebRg1l0041BBvFL01bRgdY; Tue, 21 May 2013 07:25:40 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.519B59B4.0072,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IelZrxWa c=1 sm=1 a=DJcW3uYjUF7QOSDKTYkEUA==:17 a=YsUzL_8ObRgA:10 a=QLMVfva7RPoA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=ZVrM6DcAglEA:10 a=KbCm6XAOYYQG3ArPlEIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=DJcW3uYjUF7QOSDKTYkEUA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <519B59B4.8020404@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 07:25:40 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] questions about lojban References: <20130520214048.GA3114@samsa.fritz.box> <20130520221213.GB3114@samsa.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1293 selpa'i wrote: > That's exactly the part that got changed in December 2011, when the > sentence "When an outer quantifier is used without an inner quantifier, > ''lo'' can be omitted." was removed. This means that "PA broda = PA lo > broda" *was* part of the original BPFK-approved proposal from '04. (the > recent change wasn't followed by another round of voting of course) Who had the authority to make such a change? If it isn't voted on, the change is not official, and as you can see, people won't understand what you mean. That is WHY it is supposed to be hard to make changes, and why they are supposed to be strictly controlled. > In any case, I don't think there is *such* a big difference between PA > broda and PA lo broda. In the original system, there was a logical difference but not much practical difference. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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