On T= ue, May 21, 2013 at 7:55 AM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com>= wrote:

On 21.05.= 2013 13:25, Robert LeChevalier wrote:

selpa'i wrote:

That's exactly the part that got changed in December 2011, when the
sentence "When an outer quantifier is used without an inner quantifier= ,
''lo'' can be omitted." was removed. This means that &= quot;PA broda =3D PA lo
broda" *was* part of the original BPFK-approved proposal from '04.= (the
recent change wasn't followed by another round of voting of course)

Who had the authority to make such a change?

xorxes made that change after being asked to do so. I think PC was complain= ing.

If it isn't voted on, the change is not official, and as you can see, people won't understand what you mean. That is WHY it is supposed to be hard to make changes, and why they are supposed to be strictly
controlled.

Of course, but there is no institution left to vote on such things right no= w, is there?

Yes, there is. It's ca= lled the BPFK. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bpfk-list

It's the institution created by the Logical Language Gro= up (LLG) specifically for the management of the language. Its primary tasks= are to document the language as completely as possible, and vote on propos= ed changes to the language.

There is also currently a freeze on any language changes unt= il the language as it is right now is finished being documented. Doing the = actual documenting isn't particularly difficult, but neither is it exci= ting or glamorous. Anyone with half an interest and some free time can help= , everything one needs to know to assist is here.

Whether or not this discussion belongs in the Beginner's= list, obviously the above information does, since what should be common kn= owledge apparently isn't.

=A0

Here is a relevant thread from right after the change was made: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/= lojban/XutjWBUhPMY

Please continue this discussion on the main list, if interested. It's n= ot suited to the beginners' list in my opinion.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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