Received: from mail-ea0-f186.google.com ([209.85.215.186]:51339) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UjCQv-0004XI-Hz; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:14 -0700 Received: by mail-ea0-f186.google.com with SMTP id g15sf174012eak.13 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MTok3110l67N+xf5QHI0KLwHq32Bm6AabyiBrND/ZOo=; b=XB6ztHidG3ffWP7unDZKyQ5DRxMpulHxsRIV53CKqeUVYwQ0q5tq68qTDIenEHffz7 cHrdrdkwz50Xk8eW80SiQlxIqZy+ZK2kYnekjjfZmO/NcQpPaXHfkNF5egsDCXDV4GXN t2Pp8OIG1B0CXmZE0TQ7z10xU871OwkN+s/5TFAPsyFgxbM7pq6KJssjxpUsPne8Y0ti WrH0LTRPt3LXs8pAtKR7Yqt/dwsuLnYhKSUdCbyz8xkr7owZW5RharbrfyPKOyTzcom+ YaEsty6aPNikVtqVpo6ZPx/TbflktLmQ+vR+HHyHsWb6ahxC3uDXvRvkYyXxXH8HLpTt uN0g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MTok3110l67N+xf5QHI0KLwHq32Bm6AabyiBrND/ZOo=; b=FbGCyAh1ecS7DgelJW6/GjkgVvzY3CDOowv2fUHLtx+uBMMrMyUmb+YHKS4HZLAfvM uHRLx++kcJmwZ2vZGhjFm+wNabDiOlGsqO+C2KmKAijpl6MhTXww4C4YOlUw+ksAJ/ad R7itmFoIfwI0/1se4wbDuLA2YqY0mL1PcGN36NfzaSt7xqcVkfmwRGHKgcPss6TbJkef +9siyhQsAz93CVzVdlLVg50JGv5r6XDgDSZ201wk44+JZTjGvdpgDnOZXKxQSGhu8L8q 8bGtjSlvs7X4Pfh18NwyEw9s0iDdHoJf3CxPmkPkx2VCtzT/o5oFfhtx/wnhUSGw/tEP 9+tg== X-Received: by 10.180.104.73 with SMTP id gc9mr834790wib.9.1370195461981; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.19.67 with SMTP id c3ls664728wie.28.canary; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.11.239 with SMTP id t15mr3893274wib.3.1370195460712; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bu10si471600wib.2.2013.06.02.10.51.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of daeldir@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c; Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id m6so2027831wiv.5 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.160.206 with SMTP id xm14mr9878387wib.50.1370195460633; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezumi ([2a01:e35:2ef1:f370:76e5:43ff:fe7e:86f9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm18107755wib.3.2013.06.02.10.50.58 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:51:11 +0200 From: Daeldir To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban-beginners] About my name Message-Id: <20130602195111.4a57e27bf4479e320c6880ff@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.18; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: daeldir@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of daeldir@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=daeldir@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2461 Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you guessed right :-P). It's an alias I c= reated from nothing when I was young. However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those sou= nds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking in th= e moonlight=E2=80=9D (google translate gave me that last one ;-)). And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native amer= icans do.=20 So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meaning i= n lojban. First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban: {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu} =E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, walk=E2=80= =9D Using a tanru: {lunra cnita cadzu} =E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon) =E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D maneer, and t= he =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something to do with the moon Which would give the following lujvo: {lurni'adzu} Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it means = something, but what it means is not what I am, it's just a label. So, I wou= ld turn it into a cmevla:=20 {.lurni'adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni'adz.} I didn't read the wave lessons all the way, yet. But I feel I can begin to = express some meanings, I can =E2=80=9Cbaby talk=E2=80=9D. The reason I post it there is that I want to =E2=80=9Cexercise=E2=80=9D mys= elf. I need someone that can criticize my work. Having the lessons is not s= ufficient to know if what I do, I do wrong. The three question I'm wondering about are: Is {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu} a good =E2=80=9Cexplanation=E2=80= =9D of the meaning of my name? Is {lurni'adzu} a valid lujvo, and is it ok to make a lujvo not for words, = but to create =E2=80=9Cmeaningful names=E2=80=9D? Finally, have you any suggestions for improving my sentences/words, keeping= in mind I'm for now at a really low level in Lojban? mu'o mi'e la .daeldir. Or, mu'o mi'e la .lurni'adz. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den= . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.