Received: from mail-yh0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:55962) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UpehU-00053C-0w; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:15:18 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f61.google.com with SMTP id f73sf2177240yha.6 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:14:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=C+lmlzJsESuL52huEHalSPLcZAqx5IG8+kOK8F8uSxk=; b=RAjgEIXbf8XkTtoqVD/E+CmS2OVuM8IxiKHTB6yUgpnpn3ugliiihXEijjOIhI2Bps ml1T7XbttQm27B7hXlLGnoux81CTRuCnA7GTJw5+nqshZ47YMIBtUy+cPoesZujxwEh0 ehg/hG/r1rQnBV/r8DPZQlB/PfhZ2jCsV5Np5PX0cVttfTXSRuc7IyZdFLAJof6TkyhM 48KETZ1mgk6p5Fnur4iZKVzo2XqjhoBVNO9o8RtL8m1IRVk/AgPPjFIAH/uo8AZP1P5e vHOh7/59ChR0Vab2kqxKVO6C4BVd+wm355QzPHgLwPDg2vmRWliNdpyKzk6F8CWm6Ow+ HfeA== X-Received: by 10.49.101.78 with SMTP id fe14mr166868qeb.13.1371734075352; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.88.99 with SMTP id bf3ls661545qeb.78.gmail; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:14:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.124.165 with SMTP id x25mr4316533yhh.4.1371734074075; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x42si97974yha.7.2013.06.20.06.14.31 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6E2AC4 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:14:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Why {ea} is not allowed? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:14:15 -0400 Message-ID: <2213721.HzcJNECb43@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-44-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1273 On Thursday, June 20, 2013 04:45:34 la arxokuna wrote: > But why? Is there something difficult to pronounce in it? There's nothing hard to pronounce about it, it's just not a diphthong in Lojban. It used to be a diphthong in English, but has been monophthongized. Probably it would be hard to tell from a long "e" or from "ia" depending on how you pronounce it. What I find stranger is that "eu" is not a Lojban diphthong. "eu" is fairly common, occurring in Spanish at least of the six. It's a diphthong in Basque but not Lojban, which is why "auskalerik" is so spelled. "euskalerik" would have an extra syllable. /eu/ does not occur in Russian (Belarusian, but not Russian, has diphthongs ending in /u/) or English (it turns into /iu/). The other three I don't know. Pierre -- ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.