Received: from mail-wi0-f186.google.com ([209.85.212.186]:35737) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UqM3L-0003vk-Tv; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:30 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f186.google.com with SMTP id m6sf302430wiv.13 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=X3cvFd1PAaKzD93VPc9HwBiwjs79iKGLfxD85OmQ5uw=; b=IbCO7ODX1+FOKx5hbCEDCG/Vm4VHNaSmF7fJU6rSpUzWiUfYmEyMM9DDsA6+zqcy0D SJigc4VcR++yUFdD8s/rKim45BxqGst1r3OszEKbTcuNnEW14ns9mIX9phUk4E6akwMk K7MGWeFrrG9VfH7Nt205+jf+XIf5w9YFSL17R9Z+I60nUfz0er1uv4XwGqBrSJ1KkjU6 1v66zrc1qE84OpbNSQQLTSJYD1PwGPidT2d9MOkdYRGiSCSxem0AnEXPjlNlqeu5sNmN 1N0PwwZw/CBrpQwpkkQ6t7EQPsovygOMT8BKcclfVXeUs3vbTaxbn8onNZgaRGqiJhg1 QliQ== X-Received: by 10.180.98.226 with SMTP id el2mr66187wib.6.1371900736364; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.183.17 with SMTP id ei17ls529813wic.23.gmail; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.14.47.77 with SMTP id s53mr20659069eeb.5.1371900735209; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bk51si1629797eeb.0.2013.06.22.04.32.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbc314c.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.49.76]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6C3BF860250 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 13:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 13:32:13 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] No word for "round/circular" Message-ID: <20130622113213.GE32044@samsa.fritz.box> References: <14a8338a-63b9-4961-b1ea-2bc389657791@googlegroups.com> <1405452.ijLXUxye70@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1405452.ijLXUxye70@caracal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1368 --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 07:10:27AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday, June 21, 2013 23:38:31 la arxokuna wrote: > > " in the first meaning" acc. to Wiktionary > > "Circular or cylindrical; having a circular cross-section in one direct= ion." > >=20 > > Do we have a word for this? cukla and bolci are too specific. That's not one concept, so why have one word for it? I'm not too sure, but I think {cukla ja slanu} expresses what you want. > I suggest "cukpa'otai" or "xiltai", the second after thinking of the etym= ology=20 > of "round", which is "rotundus" from "rota". {cukpa'otai} should be fine as it just translates the definition. > Do you have any suggestion for "round" in the sense of "round number" (wh= ich=20 > has two subsenses)? Could you explain the two subsenses? I only see one very hard to explain co= ncept. > There's nothing circular or wheel-like about the numbers > 1700 and 2147483648. mi'e la .van. mu'o --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHFiz0ACgkQMBKLZs4+wjxRlACeJIQLT7VsX55cSYjq7duzXE/w 7lIAnjd7Ebvb2/8jVc33uY8Sj1LKF+er =cCj/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7--