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On 2 June 2013 13:51, Daeldir <daeldir@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you guessed right :-P). It's an alias I
> created from nothing when I was young.
>
> However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those
> sounds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking =
in the moonlight=E2=80=9D (google
> translate gave me that last one ;-)).
>
> And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native
> americans do.
>
> So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meaning
> in lojban.
>
> First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban:
>
> {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu}
>  =E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, walk=E2=
=80=9D
>
> Using a tanru:
>
> {lunra cnita cadzu}
>  =E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon)
>  =E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D maneer, and=
 the =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something
> to do with the moon
>
> Which would give the following lujvo:
>
> {lurni'adzu}
>
> Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it mean=
s
> something, but what it means is not what I am, it's just a label. So, I
> would turn it into a cmevla:
>
> {.lurni'adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni'adz.}
>

Using a cmevla is not necessary. I go by {tsani} in the Lojban community,
and {tsani} is a gismu. As it is unlikely that {luni'adzu} could ever be
defined to mean anything other than "walk beneath the moon", I would find
it to be an acceptable name. Some (older) Lojbanists are of the opinion
that names that are selbri are only nicknames, but many of the younger
jbopre, who in many cases are more active than the older members, believe
that selbri can be used on par with cmevla for true names.

That being said, I'd suggest you stick with the lujvo for your name as it
more directly holds a meaning than {.lurni'acadz.} or other cmevla
alternatives.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On 2 June 2013 13:51, Daeldir <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:daeldir@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">daeldir@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you guessed right :-P). It&#39;s an alias=
 I created from nothing when I was young.<br>
<br>
However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those sou=
nds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking in th=
e moonlight=E2=80=9D (google translate gave me that last one ;-)).<br>
<br>
And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native amer=
icans do.<br>
<br>
So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meaning i=
n lojban.<br>
<br>
First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban:<br>
<br>
{lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu}<br>
=C2=A0=E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, walk=
=E2=80=9D<br>
<br>
Using a tanru:<br>
<br>
{lunra cnita cadzu}<br>
=C2=A0=E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon)<br>
=C2=A0=E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D maneer, =
and the =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something to do with the moon<br>
<br>
Which would give the following lujvo:<br>
<br>
{lurni&#39;adzu}<br>
<br>
Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it means =
something, but what it means is not what I am, it&#39;s just a label. So, I=
 would turn it into a cmevla:<br>
<br>
{.lurni&#39;adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni&#39;adz.}<br></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div style>Using a cmevla is not necessary. I go by {tsani} i=
n the Lojban community, and {tsani} is a gismu. As it is unlikely that {lun=
i&#39;adzu} could ever be defined to mean anything other than &quot;walk be=
neath the moon&quot;, I would find it to be an acceptable name. Some (older=
) Lojbanists are of the opinion that names that are selbri are only nicknam=
es, but many of the younger jbopre, who in many cases are more active than =
the older members, believe that selbri can be used on par with cmevla for t=
rue names.</div>

<div style><br></div><div style>That being said, I&#39;d suggest you stick =
with the lujvo for your name as it more directly holds a meaning than {.lur=
ni&#39;acadz.} or other cmevla alternatives.</div><div style><br></div>

<div style>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></div></div></div>

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