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Another possibility is "mi se bruna lo pa mei" (I am "brothered" by a
singleton)
        --gejyspa



On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:

> On 25.07.2013 20:02, la .temlat. wrote:
>
>> I know I can say things like {mi ponse pa lo karce} but I can't say
>> {mi ponse pa lo bunre}.
>>
>
> (bruna)
>
> Indeed, owning a brother *probably* isn't what you mean. (but owning a
> brown object is of course possible, e.g. a teddy bear)
>
>
>  I know I could say {mi se bruna pa lo prenu (po'o)},
>>
>
> You'd want to put the {po'o} after the number:
>
> {pa po'o prenu}
> "Only 1 person."
>
> The {po'o} is mostly emphatic, because {pa} (as an outer quantifier) by
> itself already means "there exists exactly 1".
>
> If you mean "only" as in "I feel lack" or as in "It's a small number that
> I am unhappy about", you could try: {so'u pa ui nai} - "few and one :( " or
> {pa be'u} - "one and I feel lack about the number".
>
>
>  but could I say {mi pamei se bruna}?
>> {mi ckini pa lo bruna}?
>>
>
> The most precise, shortest, unadorned way is:
>
>      (1) mi se bruna pa da      (or: pa da mi bruna)
>          "There exists exactly one X such that I brother X."
>          "I have exactly one brother."
>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Another possibility is &quot;mi se bruna lo pa mei&quot; (=
I am &quot;brothered&quot; by a singleton)<div style>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejy=
spa</div><div style><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:m3o@plasmatix.com" target=3D"_blank">m3o@plasmatix.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On <a href=3D"tel:25.07.2013%2020" value=3D"+12507201320"=
 target=3D"_blank">25.07.2013 20</a>:02, la .temlat. wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I know I can say things like {mi ponse pa lo karce} but I can&#39;t say<br>
{mi ponse pa lo bunre}.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
(bruna)<br>
<br>
Indeed, owning a brother *probably* isn&#39;t what you mean. (but owning a =
brown object is of course possible, e.g. a teddy bear)<div class=3D"im"><br=
>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I know I could say {mi se bruna pa lo prenu (po&#39;o)},<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
You&#39;d want to put the {po&#39;o} after the number:<br>
<br>
{pa po&#39;o prenu}<br>
&quot;Only 1 person.&quot;<br>
<br>
The {po&#39;o} is mostly emphatic, because {pa} (as an outer quantifier) by=
 itself already means &quot;there exists exactly 1&quot;.<br>
<br>
If you mean &quot;only&quot; as in &quot;I feel lack&quot; or as in &quot;I=
t&#39;s a small number that I am unhappy about&quot;, you could try: {so&#3=
9;u pa ui nai} - &quot;few and one :( &quot; or {pa be&#39;u} - &quot;one a=
nd I feel lack about the number&quot;.<div class=3D"im">
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
but could I say {mi pamei se bruna}?<br>
{mi ckini pa lo bruna}?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
The most precise, shortest, unadorned way is:<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0(1) mi se bruna pa da =A0 =A0 =A0(or: pa da mi bruna)<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0&quot;There exists exactly one X such that I brother X.&=
quot;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0&quot;I have exactly one brother.&quot;<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la selpa&#39;i<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br=
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