Received: from mail-pb0-f58.google.com ([209.85.160.58]:36267) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VUbip-0006lH-GV; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:41 -0700 Received: by mail-pb0-f58.google.com with SMTP id un15sf662705pbc.23 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=USBX+mCoJCHz6SWteYtr897TD3+GRBGaBvPH29Wc4NU=; b=PzBMEK4b40NtEPWL4KtVzSNPdRK3niyfCCYsdeGL3QuEg6zq/Mo148ZnSYl1ldKhNM 0mekrdEpbtuRFfwueiybo7HIIs5YbsBQep/TgCLafmbt9EcdT68V3tviZcjmRNMrNhbz 1tKZyR3McXl2PkkHoS5cqKh/AX/US4M/tNilBJwwtABo/V9XGI9gcZKyxNdTcJdLb1zp 1xIhehB2OkiGd4kgCTPK8aR1v+NSRo0nAFOQhwjRkXD9XhH1FNUWxcK/sU6bz7850m1q tjCxAkGusRA2FvL4kmVuzdhG4ubS3kNE76gYLPilwJQ2pivKb8UHu4yWkSIUgvfNOARS nWuw== X-Received: by 10.49.105.33 with SMTP id gj1mr57qeb.32.1381494088570; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.51.40 with SMTP id h8ls1484326qeo.28.gmail; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.73.164 with SMTP id v24mr16300913yhd.24.1381494087517; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ri8si387763igc.0.2013.10.11.05.21.27 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c; Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id vb8so2692414obc.17 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.65.37 with SMTP id u5mr183603oes.72.1381494087133; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.112.164 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1db438a1-a1b7-4a96-9155-e15443297ad6@googlegroups.com> References: <11340793.641.1316264331285.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcd38> <1709514.1439.1316929596796.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqgn17> <15583347.71.1316970175016.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqnv12> <1db438a1-a1b7-4a96-9155-e15443297ad6@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: One popular Russian song in Lojban From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1ce6852aebc04e87628a4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 8584 --001a11c1ce6852aebc04e87628a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable melbi mutce doi guskant .i pa selcpe zo'u pe'u do ko jongau lo selci'a lojbo sanga bo valsi lo skina lo tcita .a lo notci pagbu ki'e do'u, --gejyspa On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:38 PM, guskant wrote: > > > Le lundi 26 septembre 2011 02:02:54 UTC+9, la arxokuna a =E9crit : > >> ki'e .arpis. >> >> I chose su'u instead of du'u as su'u should be used in cases when the >> beginner is unsure whether to use nu or du'u. So this is the case :-) >> Also I tried to get rid of lujvo replacing them with corresponding tanru >> and place tags (but you said that they were better here). >> >> Do you confirm my translation as grammatically correct ? >> >> Anyway jbofanva has only few posts. Is it dead or ? That's why I posted >> here. >> >> Please check the translation of one more song so that I won't create a >> new topic. >> It's Russian song about an island called Choonga-Changa. >> >> In this case I tried to create rhymes in exchange of losing some sense. >> Although there is not much sense at all in the original. >> >> Just check my grammar please. >> In my translation the island is called "la .tcangas." >> >> .i doi .tcangas. >> blanu tsani vi >> .i doi .tcangas. >> cimni criso .ui >> .i doi .tcangas. >> gleki xabju ki >> .i doi .tcangas. >> mi'a sanga ti >> >> .i ti daplu tai le gapru >> .i lo lifri ku ka zifre >> .i lo lifri ku ka zifre >> .i doi .tcangas. >> >> . i nu gleki lo ro vitke >> . i temcimni narge citka >> .i temcimni badna citka >> .i doi .tcangas. >> >> .i doi .tcangas. >> xamgu stuzi .ua >> .i doi .tcangas. >> mi'a surla ca >> .i doi .tcangas. >> .i ko troci ti >> .i doi .tcangas. >> mi'a kelci vi >> > > > doi la gleki > i mi ba'o sanga la tcungatcangas fi'o cpedu do > to zoi url > http://youtu.be/xEt-aZpbFEQ > url > i mi jmina lu o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi li'u > i ji'a stika loi jufra pe la tcungatcangas > i ra'u lo cmevla cu cmima lo'i brivla > to zoi url > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji > url > > mi'e la guskant mu'o > > fa'o > > I sang the song as la gleki requested. > The sentences are NOT parsed with the current parser because they obey th= e > {zasni gerna}. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c1ce6852aebc04e87628a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
melbi mutce doi guskant .i pa selcpe zo'u pe'u do = ko jongau lo selci'a lojbo sanga bo valsi lo skina lo tcita .a lo notci= pagbu

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ki'e do'u,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa



On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:38= PM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:


Le lundi 26 septemb= re 2011 02:02:54 UTC+9, la arxokuna a =E9crit=A0:
ki'e .arpis.

I chose su'u instead of du'u as= su'u should be used in cases when the beginner is unsure whether to us= e nu or du'u. So this is the case :-)
Also I tried to get rid= of lujvo replacing them with corresponding tanru and place tags (but you s= aid that they were better here).

Do you confirm my translation as grammatically correct = ?

Anyway jbofanva has only few posts. Is it dead o= r ? That's why I posted here.

Please check the= translation of one more song so that I won't create a new topic.
It's Russian song about an island called Choonga-Changa.

In this case I tried to create rhymes in exchange of losing= some sense. Although there is not much sense at all in the original.

Just check my grammar please.
In my translati= on the island is called "la .tcangas."

<= div>.i doi .tcangas.
blanu tsani vi
.i doi .tcangas.
cimni criso .ui
.i doi .tcangas.
gleki xabju ki
.i doi .tcangas.
mi'a sanga ti

.i ti daplu tai le gapru
.i lo lifri ku ka zifre
.i lo lifri ku ka zifre
.i doi .tcangas.

. i nu gleki lo ro vitke
. i temcimni narge citka
.i t= emcimni badna citka
.i doi .tcangas.

.i doi .tcangas.
xamgu stuzi .ua
.i doi .tcangas.
=
mi'a surla ca
.i doi .tcangas.
.i ko troci ti<= /div>
.i doi .tcangas.
mi'a kelci vi


doi la gleki=A0
i = mi ba'o sanga la tcungatcangas fi'o cpedu do
to zoi url
url
i mi jmina lu o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati = le purdi li'u=A0
i ji'a stika loi jufra pe la tcungatcang= as
i ra'u lo cmevla cu cmima lo'i brivla=A0
to = zoi url
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji
url

mi'e la guskant mu'o
<= br>
fa'o

I sang the song as la gleki re= quested.
The sentences are NOT parsed with the current parser bec= ause they obey the {zasni gerna}.


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