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From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6b9ac73e7a804f1a81ff7 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5658 --047d7bd6b9ac73e7a804f1a81ff7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> Once I needed this word to say "French version of this page". This has >> nothing to do with {farvi} as all versions of the page are equal, contain >> the same text, just in different languages. >> {lo fraso mupli be tu'a lo dei papri}? >> "French example of this page"? >> >> > Isn't that case simply a xe fanva? Or am I missing something subtle > here?? > There is no translation. E.g. a page named "Contacts". French page would addresses of French lojbanists. English page would have addresses of lojbanists speaking English. "instance" is probably the right glossword here. 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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansk= y@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Jan 16, = 2014 at 4:43 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
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Once I needed this word to say "= ;French version of this page". This has nothing to do with {farvi} as = all versions of the page are equal, contain the same text, just in differen= t languages.
{lo fraso mupli be tu'a lo dei papri}?
"French exam= ple of this page"?


=C2=A0 Isn't that case simply a = =C2=A0xe fanva? =C2=A0Or am I missing something subtle here??

There is no translation.= E.g. a page named "Contacts". French page would addresses of Fre= nch lojbanists. English page would have addresses of lojbanists speaking En= glish.

"instance" is probably the right glossword he= re. So {mupli} is closer.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa
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