Received: from mail-yk0-f188.google.com ([209.85.160.188]:43681) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WLZUc-0004wy-5N for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:42:10 -0800 Received: by mail-yk0-f188.google.com with SMTP id 20sf1724577yks.5 for ; Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:41:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GLnsW2Ef1w1UvkPJfz0RiQvWaR/7z4wwRt0eCNgza0M=; b=LtaUz0yfIz7NgDJRz93KgK2piyYaywHk7kEwPR9YXj6pVRRM78SRriR0cCCvDWb3ur Uoxfdt7wG4xzVnnDTYcJ3HwsagvVBtQO373QY8xKnM6Vj3s75GWBh712MXZeGdz9l67I HcqthsxPl137zGvuCprvtPNTn0XgkYrxVJXdEvHVzEKUh5EEoitGlm2v5+iqlRQ23s9a /xhbUoa2rEypD7TdiBAmiXdmKiVGFrSxFBBiTmpoaWIAeoowH1lSzkiFAoPsViI+7mT5 MNpnBmbNREw+VIR0J0ZFKTwvu7/V9pbwMRrENs0IiVhlI5Dawuz9/n+2tZ/aqFzrmp7j Kmcw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GLnsW2Ef1w1UvkPJfz0RiQvWaR/7z4wwRt0eCNgza0M=; b=ckoJfo4/MNw0VZeyyPlKWB+nBluDFdO+cqucvD/BAwG9rVIf7rPaOvChMOidIv1BJR /yQgKhdfmGEMf7VqG33fy42ASsz/U/dpy15XJW6F3WA2jkiiRslMzv6dEVFsHkzuSHO9 Mm+oe9sLMHdJmsrdfcM+lIBE2+befaQbEqujiuGSFOHelFkSppkAmBuqv4qoQ6iE3TmU 7PXT3nwoS2AUVN0YgRNo8no2/qZv0aVN04Ue5CUJ2kWa94I2HfvwfuCmd5HMXeSbHK4y F4HnxGDhRtFUFEBBnoszy9HbAJWVGM8EcmUzDPaWY9iZdcE9vL3VG0bYYcwN1dH7ccxD Aafw== X-Received: by 10.182.111.170 with SMTP id ij10mr62553obb.18.1394116903890; Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:41:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.65.164 with SMTP id y4ls271368obs.15.gmail; Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:41:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.28.70 with SMTP id z6mr65278obg.16.1394116901895; Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:41:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 06:41:41 -0800 (PST) From: la xirsoi To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: geoffstewart56@gmail.com Message-Id: <2bce49a9-081d-498d-854c-6c647b95e9d5@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] la ciste lerfu be la ca. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: chevalieradam2@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41_26760798.1394116901217" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 11420 ------=_Part_41_26760798.1394116901217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My goodness, that *is* a sexy script. On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:12:40 AM UTC-6, la gleki wrote: > > I don't know what was in mind of the author such an alphabet as Shavian. > la srilermorna looks much sexier (and also see the description of it's=20 > design ). > > > > On Monday, May 3, 2010 12:31:38 AM UTC+4, Geoffrey Stewart wrote: >> >> coi rodo >> =20 >> Recently I discovered something called the Shavian alphabet (or la ciste= =20 >> lerfu be la ca., in my quick Lojban translation). It looks like somethin= g=20 >> that could be easily adapted for Lojban use, as it has already been adap= ted=20 >> for Esperanto use. Here is the wikipedia entry on it:=20 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet >> =20 >> And here is a font (two, in fact): http://www.demeyere.com/shavian/ >> =20 >> Obviously the letters for /t=CA=83/ (c), /d=CA=92/ (J), and /=C5=8B/ (N)= would not be=20 >> used. /j/ (j) and /w/ (w) would likewise not be used, as lojban uses=20 >> vowels for that. /h/ (h) I am reluctant to use because it's so large and= =20 >> the lojbanic <'> should be less intrusive, so possibly the apostrophe co= uld=20 >> just continue to be used. As for the vowels, A can be used for , e or= =20 >> E for , I for , O for , M for , and a for .=20 >> =20 >> The main problem is that the mapping onto the keyboard doesn't seem to b= e=20 >> very intuitive for some of the symbols, and will have you reaching for t= he=20 >> shift key more often than should be necessary. Nevertheless, it works fi= ne=20 >> with writing, and is a logical alphabet to go with a logical language. T= ell=20 >> me what you think! >> =20 >> mu'o mi'e djefris. >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >> lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at=20 >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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My goodness, that is a sexy script.

On = Monday, November 18, 2013 8:12:40 AM UTC-6, la gleki wrote:
I don't know what was in mind= of the author such an alphabet as Shavian.
la srilermorna looks much s= exier (and also see the description of it's design).



On Monday, May = 3, 2010 12:31:38 AM UTC+4, Geoffrey Stewart wrote:
coi rodo
 
Recently I discovered something called the Shavian alphabet (or la cis= te lerfu be la ca., in my quick Lojban translation). It looks like somethin= g that could be easily adapted for Lojban use, as it has already been adapt= ed for Esperanto use. Here is the wikipedia entry on it: http://en.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet
 
And here is a font (two, in fact): http://www.demeyere.com/shavian/
 
Obviously the letters for
 
The main problem is that the mapping onto the keyboard doesn't seem = to be very intuitive for some of the symbols, and will have you reaching fo= r the shift key more often than should be necessary. Nevertheless, it works= fine with writing, and is a logical alphabet to go with a logical language= . Tell me what you think!
 
mu'o mi'e djefris.

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/t=CA=83/ (c), /d=CA=92/ (J), and /=C5=8B/ (N) would not be used. /j/ (j) and /w/ (w) would likewise not be used, as lojban uses vowels for that. /h/ (h) = ;I am reluctant to use because it's so large and the lojbanic <'> sho= uld be less intrusive, so possibly the apostrophe could just continue to be= used. As for the vowels, A can be used for <a>, e&= nbsp;or E for <e>, I<= /span> for <i>, O for <o>, M f= or <u>, and a= for <y>.