Received: from mail-ie0-f192.google.com ([209.85.223.192]:38104) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WUHsA-0006lI-1J for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:23 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f192.google.com with SMTP id to1sf1644064ieb.19 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wMzdMGE0ZUfhHesp/UYtPuRlnEHwPK8vuZfC7pMxqUU=; b=gI6Io4yIT9+ZpXCUKNQeIkicrLb0d0Ux/waEt1+kwVd9UkypQvbxxDZSfc8dw8qQrj PTFN5j+OsvOxQKbN9nvt/gRBYyA6MCv65PhWrlnqtUwbyafj58TjLLgnF8Up+HR8sFni jPgIAFJykAUwfjbfi08151AVXsLMLaBEJ6Djmpkdyzq2KmxcfgzgK6Ak7yKZimzS7Gjh FlyTCRagZ4sDpTP8E3id2tRnGb6uLY3jpv/ADYMVrQj8QBxt27yNWyXKWQqM1fiMjiRx z/6kUmBAT2td2Ok4/Y37x9oBCk9hClF/R6hniUDpS3RgIBdUV2obIxwQpmBebpkTozFv dj6Q== X-Received: by 10.182.111.170 with SMTP id ij10mr383726obb.18.1396194123904; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.202.70 with SMTP id kg6ls1309965obc.27.gmail; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.19.164 with SMTP id g4mr7940419obe.21.1396194122473; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x230.google.com (mail-qa0-x230.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ie7si3827810qcb.2.2014.03.30.08.42.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230; Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m5so7087437qaj.7 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.37.10 with SMTP id v10mr701815qad.104.1396194122384; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.49.162 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: is "more often" {za'uxo'eroi} or {za'uno'oroi}? From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1f9d2b3cb0304f5d4c65c X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 6309 --001a11c1f9d2b3cb0304f5d4c65c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Sebastian wrote: > {za'uroi} means just "more than once". It doesn't say anything how often > the event(s) occurs. > > These days a lot of us say that the implicit PA in {za'u} defaults to {xo'e} (an unspecified contextual number) rather than {pa}. It still has nothing to do with frequency, however. mi'e la latro'a mu'o > {zmaroi} is a bit weird, but why not {za'uroi}? zo za'u cmavo ma'oi pa > > El s=E1bado, 29 de marzo de 2014 04:08:18 UTC-4, la gleki escribi=F3: >> >> What would be the best tense for "more often"? {zmaroi} is not a tense >> and {fi'o zmaroi} is a hack (after all it's a math/logical language. isn= 't >> it? so why not numbers here?) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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On S= un, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Sebastian <seb@lojban.se> wrote:
{za'uroi} means just "more than once".= It doesn't say anything how often the event(s) occurs.

These days a lot of us say that the implicit PA in {z= a'u} defaults to {xo'e} (an unspecified contextual number) rather t= han {pa}. It still has nothing to do with frequency, however.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o
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{zmaroi} is a bit weird, but why not {za'uroi}? zo za'u cmavo ma= 9;oi pa

El s=E1bado, 29 de marzo de 2014 04:08:18 UTC-4, la gleki es= cribi=F3:
What would be the best tense for "more often"? {= zmaroi} is not a tense and {fi'o zmaroi} is a hack (after all it's = a math/logical language. isn't it? so why not numbers here?)

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