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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: multiple connectives
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On Saturday, November 2, 2013 1:50:50 PM UTC-4, pafcribe wrote: 
>
>  And in trying to get the flavor of the "even" part of the phrase, I 
> think it's a kind of mixture of "ca" and ".u".  But the form "ko'a broda 
> ko'e ca .u ko'i" is not valid.  It's possible to mix tags like "pu ca" or 
> "ca bai", but I guess logical connectives are different?
>
 
I don't know about tags, but you can do a tensed logical connection (CLL Ch 
14 <http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter14.html> - 
starting at about 18.4) to get the the "even" you want.  I think what 
you're looking for is:
 
"Justice be done" {.ijucabo} "Heaven falls."
 
ke'u, this does not put "Heaven falls" in a sumtcita tag off of the main 
bridi "Justice be done."  If you really want the "Heaven falls" to be an 
abstract sumti off of the main bridi, I would hazard a guess at saying 
"Justice be done" ?{gi'uca lo nu "Heaven falls" kei}  I'm supposing {gi'u} 
would "bridi-tail" it onto the main bridi, and {ca} would act as a 
sumtcita, expecting a single sumti, which would have to come in the form of 
an event (hence {lo nu...kei})
 
mi nintadni .iseni'ibo zoi gy. Take what I say with a grain of salt gy.
 
mi'e .neit. mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Saturday, November 2, 2013 1:50:50 PM UTC-4, pafcribe w=
rote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV>And in trying to get the flavor of the "even" part of the phrase, I th=
ink it's a kind of mixture of "ca" and ".u". &nbsp;But the form "ko'a broda=
 ko'e ca .u ko'i" is not valid. &nbsp;It's possible to mix tags like "pu ca=
" or "ca bai", but I guess logical connectives are different?</DIV></DIV></=
BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I don't know about tags, but you can do a tensed logical connection (<=
A href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter14.ht=
ml">CLL Ch 14</A> - starting at about 18.4)&nbsp;to get the the "even" you =
want.&nbsp; I think what you're looking for is:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"Justice be done" {.ijucabo} "Heaven falls."</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>ke'u, this does not put "Heaven falls" in a sumtcita tag off of the ma=
in bridi "Justice be done."&nbsp; If you really want the "Heaven falls" to =
be an abstract sumti off of the main bridi, I would hazard a guess at sayin=
g "Justice be done" ?{gi'uca lo nu "Heaven falls" kei}&nbsp; I'm supposing =
{gi'u} would "bridi-tail" it onto the main bridi, and {ca} would act as a s=
umtcita, expecting a single sumti, which would have to come in the form of =
an event (hence {lo nu...kei})</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>mi nintadni .iseni'ibo zoi gy. Take what&nbsp;I say with a grain of sa=
lt gy.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>mi'e .neit. mu'o</DIV></div>

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