Received: from mail-vc0-f183.google.com ([209.85.220.183]:42915) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WlPsT-0005dd-Mo for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:29 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f183.google.com with SMTP id lf12sf1422448vcb.10 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rCfODDDfpjJWKvQ79kfZvabn5P3a9oLloc1IwfkVUTQ=; b=B4pI9EvV1O5CnLfJ+fryDamwfNNE1UPQ17IQaAHT3DvkNV2buAUMUr86SMTW4SnqHg 6t/tEeFpgkrkx/kJeWBRMJ8lup+4SIlZYzWPCJ1P3qfy23gSyMPdJIX+DrHK3cYRVh4i StF1ytQtHQBxgUTXmBtiJLZcKsaCQS1/5h5HTTkUaBxqBpNaryyoKZP5RwsbjxKbbQSd Ssl7X6KitpHpLM3Z8zZppiLPJvCQ/9wRF+KA1Zwtoux26ThuTL4/V/gHdUsPmEYtmzWF nww+W7zBjRvRo+0cDlVWydFJtVTmyYofBFlVVkSi54d0YzPZ2L2htMNL3EI/fy/mLDBg 9dYQ== X-Received: by 10.50.117.68 with SMTP id kc4mr7131igb.13.1400276471427; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.61.136 with SMTP id p8ls700065igr.17.canary; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.130.102 with SMTP id od6mr509926igb.0.1400276470407; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x22c.google.com (mail-ve0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id on5si583472vdb.0.2014.05.16.14.41.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c; Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id oz11so3825740veb.17 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.185.72 with SMTP id fa8mr13564477vdc.12.1400276470291; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.73 with HTTP; Fri, 16 May 2014 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 18:41:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] filling places of {satci}. From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a66d99619d04f98b459b X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4569 --bcaec548a66d99619d04f98b459b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > The only example of satci with places filled i know of is > > ta satci lo ka se djica mi - Eso es exactamente lo que quer=C3=ADa. (xorx= es) > > Should it be {ta satci fi lo ka se djica mi} ? > If you follow the gi'uste order, yes, but I tend to ignore it when it makes no sense. There are not many official argument places that I regularly skip, but another one that comes to mind is the x3 of "traji". > anyway how to fill satci1, satci2, satci3? > > x1 is anything that has property x3 (or x2 for me) exactly, i.e. without any fuzziness or approximation involved: lo jubme cu satci lo ka ce'u mitre li re "The table is exact in measuring 2 meters." li re cu satci lo ka lo jubme cu mitre ce'u" "2 is the exact measure of the table in meters." "To precision x" is something like the "by standard" places, normally not useful and better added with a tag if needed. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --bcaec548a66d99619d04f98b459b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Gleki Arxokuna = <gleki.i= s.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
The only example of satci w= ith places filled i know of is

ta satci lo ka se dj= ica mi - Eso es exactamente lo que quer=C3=ADa. (xorxes)=C2=A0

Should it be {ta satci fi lo ka se djica mi} ?

If you follow the gi'uste ord= er, yes, but I tend to ignore it when it makes no sense. There are not many= official argument places that I regularly skip, but another one that comes= to mind is the x3 of "traji".
=C2=A0
anywa= y how to fill satci1, satci2, satci3?

x1 is anything that has property x3= (or x2 for me) exactly, i.e. without any fuzziness or approximation involv= ed:

lo= jubme cu satci lo ka ce'u mitre li re
"The table is exact in measuring 2 meters.&= quot;=C2=A0

li re cu satci lo ka lo jubme cu mitre ce'u"
"2 is the exact measure of the table in meters."

"To precision x&= quot; is something like the "by standard" places, normally not us= eful and better added with a tag if needed.

mu'o mi= 'e xorxes

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