Received: from mail-ve0-f191.google.com ([209.85.128.191]:65059) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wlgio-0004GD-Hd for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:32 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f191.google.com with SMTP id db11sf1062799veb.28 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=cv6cWQ8B8e+ETVr8cUUWyiCoM3+uJet7LjuZqPPMLJc=; b=KwACgHO9nRLyIEFhs2ck+JseS0XJpqXencjGHNWqEPteC0xBQBm1XJ56gRDWM4SLbr FUBNLwF6a2NjwOc+LjXTa3wYHgHRnLv33RjLRWbpR4LUv8RXpi8I00GBBKB6L1lJyERb cxDxjMzv/91sqG2lX9qCh3sAaW1LeXgoVtq+m6tBpbXV2mD2vunE4FAwz6oCsgdWgi/2 U78md0LVJjG6sumRgqfSbz7wi9M4HnU1z7PhGVT3n8yDABfkggkGEvWWj7OuPczWlN7g Ea6yriVl+INI7ZR5+SdAaa5I3bFnXXV25nfssNcGSRty8a9RNDcghY5x3zcP6Gf9BaP1 Lg+w== X-Received: by 10.50.143.1 with SMTP id sa1mr104373igb.12.1400341220280; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.4.40 with SMTP id h8ls978966igh.33.canary; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.158.6 with SMTP id wq6mr9000037pab.39.1400341219287; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22e.google.com (mail-qg0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ga1si1591606qcb.0.2014.05.17.08.40.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e; Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q108so6151619qgd.33 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.24.98 with SMTP id 89mr32810283qgq.33.1400341219156; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.33.137 with HTTP; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <330aa80a-028c-4e74-b472-2cd7b059ccd6@googlegroups.com> References: <330aa80a-028c-4e74-b472-2cd7b059ccd6@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 11:40:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] .i zoi gy. gift gy. xe fanva ma la lojban (How do you say 'Gift' in lojban?) From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1214aeea80604f99a58b9 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5895 --001a11c1214aeea80604f99a58b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I would suggest not trying to work with lujvo for a while as a beginner. Knowing when a new word is needed in the first place isn't easy, knowing what place structure a lujvo should get isn't easy, etc. "A gift" is {lo se dunda [ku]}. "God's gift" is slightly harder to say: {lo se dunda be lo cevni [ku] [be'o] [ku]}. "The people's victory" can be translated in a number of ways, but the most straightforward would be "the event that the people win". This would make the name {nu lo prenu cu jinga}. Other than the first one, these are all a little bit advanced, so don't fret too much if you're seeing grammar you don't know yet. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM, wrote: > I'm not sure if I got that question right, I just watched the YT video on > it. > > I'm trying to translate Joanna into lojban. > Joanna means 'God's gift', and God is cevni cev cei. What's gift? > > Also, as an example, if I use dunda as gift, would the name be ceidu'a? > Wouldn't that be God giver? > > On another note, my name is Nick, and Nicholas means The people's victory. > person = prenu pre > win = jinga jig ji'a > So could Nicholas be preji'a? > > Thanks in advance! > > (possibly)-preji'a > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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I would suggest not trying to work with luj= vo for a while as a beginner. Knowing when a new word is needed in the firs= t place isn't easy, knowing what place structure a lujvo should get isn= 't easy, etc.

"A gift" is {lo se dunda [ku]}. "God's gift&qu= ot; is slightly harder to say: {lo se dunda be lo cevni [ku] [be'o] [ku= ]}. "The people's victory" can be translated in a number of w= ays, but the most straightforward would be "the event that the people = win". This would make the name {nu lo prenu cu jinga}.

Other than the first one, these are all a little bit advanced, so= don't fret too much if you're seeing grammar you don't know ye= t.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o


On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM, <aquarius7373@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure if I got that question right, I just watc= hed the YT video on it.

I'm trying to translate Joan= na into lojban.
Joanna means 'God's gift', and God is= cevni cev cei. What's gift?

Also, as an example, if I use dunda as gift, would the = name be ceidu'a? Wouldn't that be God giver?

On another note, my name is Nick, and Nicholas means The people's vi= ctory.
person =3D prenu pre
win =3D jinga jig ji'a
So= could Nicholas be preji'a?

Thanks in advance!=

(possibly)-preji'a

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