Received: from mail-la0-f55.google.com ([209.85.215.55]:47737) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WvR9C-0003Qq-7O for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:04:07 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f55.google.com with SMTP id el20sf246828lab.0 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zUimvB2cxXv1HADtcu7bW0dz7ImtcKEFiU/djCH3cZ4=; b=Z9f0xxmO2EE+gZ6O0/r6HsFQ/zmYnqsiVK7ioT2u0KfKCLhyYV3as+83UtFFdlXHYh ejyXG1IOkXRg1P39ZjBF0PvHuAQnl3C8N/ypaee8+3d0ByGQ/GRdPmhKsSsLtqHqZvuq lb0dbsWkQ4TGcr4EYbgytw/uyzSO55SWjbFLXbBkNBZSVPkTlMbs1cuPJOz7GMj/cQjS K5Uw5pHUf6L5g1aY744eBuko7nEh6TahJCiv7VUaMZZ03my0dPQ5NB2ADJRstctXXTxy R43t3WGjI3xbJXMMjO4yVcb/78JV2ZsAwFLiANt6cfxEdaTf0jGWqricFR5CW1jeqLAA GnRQ== X-Received: by 10.180.80.226 with SMTP id u2mr8956wix.20.1402664629410; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.126.5 with SMTP id mu5ls47940wib.17.gmail; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.228.107 with SMTP id sh11mr335795wic.6.1402664628118; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gc5si151700wic.1.2014.06.13.06.03.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::234; Received: by mail-wi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id hi2so844586wib.1 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.105.72 with SMTP id gk8mr4680253wib.32.1402664628004; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.163 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:03:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3b60a090-6dbb-4730-9caf-9200b53a0b27@googlegroups.com> References: <3b60a090-6dbb-4730-9caf-9200b53a0b27@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:03:47 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: {konju} and its place structure From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442685ae42f1c04fbb74e60 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 2901 --f46d0442685ae42f1c04fbb74e60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-06-13 16:41 GMT+04:00 : > I would consider that to be more or less the ideal definition for {konju}. > You can add an x4 to specify the material, but in that case it would create > ambiguity whether we're talking about the mathematical abstraction of > "cone," or simply a conical object. I guess we could say {konju da'i} for > an abstract cone and {konju da'inai} for a conical object? I'm reaching > here. > {da'i} is about hypothetical situations. {lo konju poi marji lo mudri} - a wooden cone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d0442685ae42f1c04fbb74e60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I would consider that to be more or less the ideal definition for {kon= ju}. You can add an x4 to specify the material, but in that case it would c= reate ambiguity whether we're talking about the mathematical abstractio= n of "cone," or simply a conical object. I guess we could say {ko= nju da'i} for an abstract cone and {konju da'inai} for a conical ob= ject? I'm reaching here.

{da'i} is about hypothetical situatio= ns.

{l= o konju poi marji lo mudri} - a wooden cone.

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