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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: {konju} and its place structure
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I'm probably missing a subtlety here, but what is the distinction between, 
"x1 is hypothetically a cone," and "x1 is a hypothetical cone"? I accept 
that I'm missing /something/...

On Friday, June 13, 2014 9:03:49 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
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> 2014-06-13 16:41 GMT+04:00 <len.b...@gmail.com <javascript:>>:
>
>> I would consider that to be more or less the ideal definition for 
>> {konju}. You can add an x4 to specify the material, but in that case it 
>> would create ambiguity whether we're talking about the mathematical 
>> abstraction of "cone," or simply a conical object. I guess we could say 
>> {konju da'i} for an abstract cone and {konju da'inai} for a conical object? 
>> I'm reaching here.
>>
>
> {da'i} is about hypothetical situations.
>
> {lo konju poi marji lo mudri} - a wooden cone.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm probably missing a subtlety here, but what is the dist=
inction between, "x1 is hypothetically a cone," and "x1 is a hypothetical c=
one"? I accept that I'm missing /something/...<br><br>On Friday, June 13, 2=
014 9:03:49 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-06-13 16:4=
1 GMT+04:00  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank=
" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"sWmrQwpmz9IJ" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'javasc=
ript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;">len=
.b...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>I would consider that to be more or less the ideal definition for {kon=
ju}. You can add an x4 to specify the material, but in that case it would c=
reate ambiguity whether we're talking about the mathematical abstraction of=
 "cone," or simply a conical object. I guess we could say {konju da'i} for =
an abstract cone and {konju da'inai} for a conical object? I'm reaching her=
e.</div>
<div></div></blockquote></div><br>{da'i} is about hypothetical situations.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>{lo konju poi marji lo mudri} - a wooden cone.</di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div>

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