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On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> "x1 is measured in major-money-units (dollar/yuan/ruble) as x2
> (quantity), monetary system x3."
>
> {pa la.iuros.rupnu li papicivo lo meryru'u}
> "1 Euro is measured as 1.34 US dollars."
>

That would mean that every euro other than the one worth 1,34 US dollars
must be worth something other than 1.34 US dollars, which is not the case,
since every euro is worth the same amount of US dollars.


> I have seen it used in this sense:
>
> {papicivo lo meryru'u cu ve vecnu lo plise dakli}
> "US$1.34 is the cost of a bag of apples."
>

I think "lo meryru'u be li papicivo" is better.


> As in:
> {lo plise dakli cu rupnu li papicivo lo meryru'u}
> "An apple bag is measured as 1.34 US dollars."
>

That's how I would use it, but just "lo merko" in x3, or alternatively "lo
plise dakli cu meryru'u li pa pi ci vo"..

"rupnu" is a measure word, it works like all the other measure words. For
comparing currencies I would use "dunli":

   lo ronru'u be li pa cu dunli lo meryru'u be li pa pi ci vo lo ka vamji

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div>&quot;x<sub=
>1</sub> is measured in major-money-units (dollar/yuan/ruble) as x<sub>2</s=
ub> (quantity), monetary system x<sub>3</sub>.&quot;<br>
<br>{pa la.iuros.rupnu li papicivo lo meryru&#39;u}<br>
</div><div>&quot;1 Euro is measured as 1.34 US dollars.&quot;<br></div></di=
v></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That would mean that every euro other th=
an the one worth 1,34 US dollars must be worth something other than 1.34 US=
 dollars, which is not the case, since every euro is worth the same amount =
of US dollars.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I hav=
e seen it used in this sense:<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div>=
{papicivo lo meryru&#39;u cu ve vecnu lo plise dakli}<br>
</div>
&quot;US$1.34 is the cost of a bag of apples.&quot;<br></div></div></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>I think &quot;lo meryru&#39;u be li papicivo&quot;=
 is better.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
">As in:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">{lo plise dakli cu rupnu li pa=
picivo lo meryru&#39;u}<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">&quot;An apple =
bag is measured as 1.34 US dollars.&quot;<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That&#39;s how I would use it,=
 but just &quot;lo merko&quot; in x3, or alternatively &quot;lo plise dakli=
 cu meryru&#39;u li pa pi ci vo&quot;..</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;rupn=
u&quot; is a measure word, it works like all the other measure words. For c=
omparing currencies I would use &quot;dunli&quot;:</div>
<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0lo ronru&#39;u be li pa cu dunli lo meryru=
&#39;u be li pa pi ci vo lo ka vamji</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#=
39;e xorxes</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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